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Oberdieck( Oberdykes), Louis, (listed as "H." Oberdecker), Van Brunt near Elizabeth (now Beard) - "77"* Elizabeth

Louis Oberdieck was born in Germany circa 1836. He immigrated to the US before 1856 when he had a grocery store on West 20th street in Manhattan. By 1868 he had a business on Elizabeth street in Red Hook, Brooklyn. He married Catherine Piper (Variations of spellings of both first and last names) in 1863. They had at least 6 children: Bertha (and aliases all starting with "B") circa 1864, John Henry Ernest c 1866, Annie c. 1868, Francis c 1869 died 1871, Minnie circa 1876 and William 1878. The 1900 census indicates that they had 9 children 5 of whom lived.

Louis ran a liquor/restaurant/saloon business on Elizabeth streets and on van Dyke streets in Brooklyn until at least 1878. Louis died in Manhattan 1895. Catherine died in Manhattan in 1927.

None of the children stayed in Brooklyn or in the liquor/restaurant business. Bertha married a well known vaudeville entertainer, Thomas McCormick. They traveled the world ending up in Montague, Michigan. They had one son, Sidney, who did not marry. John Henry married and had at least two children, Annie (Marie) and Frank. Frank died in Ecorse, Michigan in 1987. Annie married Richard Chamberlain a hotel keeper. They did not have children and lived in Westchester, New York. Minnie married Ernest Grube and later ____ Whitney. She died in San Diego California in 1963. William married Martha Voigt Eppler. He had three stepsons, but does not appear to have had chidden of his own. He died in 1924

1850 ??? Luder Oberdieck Age: 14 Birth Year: 1836 Birthplace: Massel Residence : Massel Date Mustered: 14 Sep 1850 Ship: Ocean Port of Departure: Bremen Destination: England und Constantinople, Die Turkei (Turkey) Archive Name: Bremen Staatsarchiv Archive Collection: 4,24-E.7 Musterungslisten der Schiffe, geführt vom Bremer Wasserschout, 1837 Juli- 1873 Mai

1856: Oberdieck, Louis, grocer, 80 W 20th street New York City

1859: Petition of Naturalization of "Luder" Oberdieck, residing 20 street, 8 February 1856 - renounced Hing of Hannover, NY Common Pleas.

1863: Luder Oberdieck Event Type Marriage Event Date 02 Aug 1863 Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Gender Male Age 27 Marital Status Single Race White Birth Year (Estimated) 1836 Birthplace Germany Spouse's Name Catherine Pieper Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 21 Spouse's Marital Status Single Spouse's Race White Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1842 Spouse's Birthplace Germany

1868 Directory: Oberdieck, restaurant 77 Elizabeth street, Brooklyn

1870 Liquor list - "Oberdecker" under Miscellaneous "Elizabeth near Van Brunt."

*The 1886 map does NOT show 77 Elizabeth near Van Brunt or 34 Van Dyke near Van Brunt.

Birth: Louis Oberdieck born Hanover/Prussia Germany circa 1836. According to his death certificate his mother's name was Bertha.

Immigration: :

Addresses:: "77 Elizabeth" and "34 Van dyke", Red Hook Brooklyn

Marriage: Catherine Piper [per marriage of their daughter and other records from LDS]


  1. Bertha [Beatrice/Bertie] Oberdeick born circa 1864

    Marriage: Thomas Napier Pattinson McCormick


    1. Sidney Sidney James Mccormick 31 May 1886 Birthplace Manhattan, New York, New York, USA Father's Name Thomas N. P. Mccormick Mother's Name Batrise Isabella Oberdeik Mccormick

      Death: Sidney Mc Cormick Event Type Death Event Date 28 Oct 1957 Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States Address 159 W Van Buren Gender Male Age 71 Marital Status Single Race White Occupation Laborer Birth Date 31 May 1886 Birthplace New York City, , New York Funeral Home Sisson Funeral Home Burial Date 2 Nov 1957 Cemetery Oakgrove Father's Name Thomas Mc Cormick Mother's Name Beatrice Babetta Informant's Name Edw Mar Arthur

    In December 2015 Tom Walker wrote:
    "One of my great uncles is Thomas Napier Pattinson McCormick. He was a very well known music hall artist in North America and Britain, performing from the 1880s to 1920s under his stage name of Tom Brantford (after the town where he was born in 1858). I have one of his scrapbooks with newspaper cuttings. His wife was Beatrice, known as Bertha or Bertie. Her obituary notice in the Moneague Observer (Michigan) on 17 August 1944 (written by her son Sidney) states that "Beatrice Isabel Oberdieck was born 80 years ago in New York City. At 19 she met and married Thomas Napier McCormick ..."

    One of the cuttings states: "My wife was a new York girl. Her father kept a bid saloon in Red Hook, near Brooklyn." I feel that these quotes establish without any doubt that the Isabella Oberdieck is the same as the Bertha Oberdeick 1864 you list under the children of Louis Oberdieck.

    Another obituary notice of Beatrice (supplied to me by Muskegon County Genealogical Society, so I don't know the newspaper) states that her surviving children are: "one son, Sidney, two sisters, Mrs Anna Chamberlain, Blue Lake, and Mrs Minnie Whitney, San Diego, Calif., and a nephew and niece, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Oberdieck of Ecorse." This would seem to establish that Minnie is also a daughter of Louis Oberdieck, although she then has another husband, --- Whitney, not the Ernest James Grube you name.

    Of the other children on your list, Annie is clearly the Anna Chamberlain named above. I have no records of any Henry or Francis Oberdieck, so perhaps they died young.

    I cannot offer any suggestions for William Oberdieck or John Heinrich Ernst Oberdieck, although the parents names in both cases seems to indicate clearly that they are of the same family.

  2. LDS lists: "Isabella" Oberdieck groom's name, Thomas N. P. Mccormick, bride's name, "Isabella" Oberdieck Marriage date: 02 Mar 1884 marriage place, Manhattan, New York, New York groom's father's name: Samuel groom's mother's name: Grace Caruthers bride's father's name: Lewis bride's mother's name: Catherine Peipei indexing project (batch) number: M00557-2 system origin: New_York-ODM source film number: 1570327 (LDS)

    NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned, Thomas Napier McCormick and Richard Langley Evans, carrying on business as Job Masters, at the George Hotel Stables, lialham-hill, in the county of Surrey, under the style or firm of T. Brantford and Company, was dissolved as and from the 30th day of November, 1898, by mutual consent. All debts due to and owing by the late firm will be received and paid by the said Thomas Nnpier McCormick who will continue to carry on the above business as heretofore - Dated the 11th day of January, 1899. THOMAS NAPIER MCCORMICK.

    The London Gazette, January 17, 1899

    1901: 31 Mar 1901 Streatham, London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish Streatham Ecclesiastical Parish The Ascension Balham Hill Registration District Wandsworth Residence Note Kenilford Road, T Napier P Mccormick Head M 42 Canada, job master, Betsie Mccormick Wife F 36 Brooklyn New York United States Of America B S Sidney Mccormick Son M 14 New York City United States Of America B S

    1915: The Montaque Observer - "Tom Brantford, the famous "Scotch comedian," who built In Fruitvale last summer is returning this spring and planning on building a beautiful little house. July 1, 1915

    1940: Fruitville Road, Blue Lake, Muskegon, Michigan, Thomas McCormick 82, Canada, English, Beatrice McCormick 75, New York Sidney McCormick 52, New York, laborer, road

    Find a Grave: Brantford, Beatrice Isabelle "Bertie" McCormick 95572780, b. 1864 d. Aug. 8, 1944 Oak Grove Cemetery, Montague, Muskegon County, Michigan, USA, Brantford, Thomas Napier McCormick 95572825, b. 1856 d. Nov. 25, 1942

    The 1944 obit in the Montague Observer of Beatrice Isabel Overdieck quoted her son Sidney:

    At 19 she met and married Thomas Napier Mccormick, who as a very youthful seaman, had seen her, a towheaded child playing around the Erie Basin Dry dock, Brooklyn, when his ship had put in for repairs."
    Bertie and Thomas formed a vaudeville team and toured the US, the British Isles and Europe. They settled in Montague in 1929.

  3. [John] Henry Ernest Oberdieck, 1866 to 1910

    1896 Marriage: John Heinrich Ernst Oberdieck bride's name, Anna Prebich marriage date, 14 Nov 1896, marriage place: Manhattan, New York, New York groom's father's name, Louis Oberdieck groom's mother's name, Katherine, bride's father's name, John Prebich, bride's mother's name, Julie,, indexing project (batch) number: M00585-7 system origin: New_York-ODM source film number: 1487669


    1. Annie/Marie Oberdieck Event Type Birth Event Date 12 Feb 1898 Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Gender Female Race White Father's Name Henry Oberdieck Father's Birthplace New York Father's Age 32 Mother's Name Annie Prebich Oberdieck Mother's Birthplace Austria Mother's Age 27

      Marie circa 1898

      Marriage: William T Austin Marriage 19 Aug 1918 Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Age 21 Marital Status Single Birth Year (Estimated) 1897 Birthplace Manhattan Father's Name Thomas Mother's Name Bertha Wright Spouse's Name Marie Oberdieck Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 20 Spouse's Marital Status Single Spouse's Race White Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1898 Spouse's Birthplace Manhattan Spouse's Father's Name Henry Spouse's Mother's Name Anna "Crevich"

      1925 Census: William Austin Head M 21 New York, Anna Austin Wife F 21 New York, Lillian Austin Daughter F 1 New York, Anna Oberdieck Mother-in-law F 52 Austria, Francis Oberdieck Brother-in-law M 17 New York

    2. Henry/Francis [Frank]

      "Hendry" Oberdieck Birth 19 Jul 1902 Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Father's Name Hendry Oberdieck Father's Birthplace Brooklyn, N. Y. Father's Age 36 Mother's Name Anna Prebich Oberdieck Mother's Birthplace Ungar Mother's Age 33


      Child: William

      1940: Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan Frank H Oberdieck 37, inspector steel mill, Elizaberth A Oberdieck 34, William H Oberdieck 5

      Death: Francis H Oberdieck Birth Date: 19 Jul 1902 Death Date: 26 Nov 1987 Gender: Male Residence: Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan Place of Death: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan

    1910: Death February 8, Henry Oberdieck beloved husband of Annie Oberdieck age 42 years, 353 E 65th street. Interment Lutheran.

    1920: E 65th street, William Austin 21, chauffeur express business, Anna Austin 21 Lillian Austin 1 [1 10/12] Anna Oberdieck 52, laundress private family, Francis Oberdieck 17, driver grocery store.

  4. Annie Oberdeick, 1868

    Marriage: Richard Chamberlain Event Type Marriage Event Date 06 Jan 1883 Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Gender Male Spouse's Name Anna Johanne Oberdieck Spouse's Gender Female

    1900 Census: West 98th Street, Richard Chamberlain 48, waiter, born England, Anna Chamberlain 32, born New York, married 17 years, Catherine Oberdieck 58, widow 9 children 5 living, born Germany

    1910: Port Chester Ward 4, Westchester, New York West Chester Ave, Richard Chamberlain 58, hotel keeper, Anna J Chamberlain 43, Beatrice M Chamberlain 22, John C Van Haughten 61, boarder, Nellie Godowsky 21, hotel servant, Frank Godowsky 29, hotel servant, Also listed as a widow in 1920 with Catherine age 78.

  5. Francis [Frank?] Oberdieck c 1869

    1871 - Died Oberdieck, on Thursday June 1, August J Frank, youngest son of Louis and Catherine Oberdieck age 2 1/2 years and 10 days, The World, June 6 1971.

  6. Minnie circa 1876

    1897 Marriage: Minnie Oberdieck groom's name, Ernest James Grube, marriage date, 02 Jun 1897, marriage place: Manhattan, New York, New York groom's father's name, Ernest Grube, groom's mother's name: Martha bride's father's name, Louis Oberdieck bride's mother's name, Katharine indexing project (batch) number: M00695-4 system origin: New_York-ODM source film number: 1487675

    Per Tom Walker December 2015 Minnie was later married to ____ Whitney and lived in San Diego California.

    1930: 3555 Chamoune Avenue San Diego, Minnie Whitney, age 54, widow, housekeeper private family

    1940: 3555 Chamoune Avenue, San Diego, Minnie L Whitney 64, widowed, born New York, own

    1963: Minnie C Whitney Birth Date: 27 Aug 1875 Death Date: 20 Feb 1963 Death Place: San Diego Mother's Maiden Name: "Pipper", California Death

  7. William Oberdieck (1878-1924) - Date of birth: 09 Mar 1878 born Brooklyn, Kings, New York father's name, Louis Oberdieck, mother's name, Friederike Catharine Piper, indexing project C71519-8 source film number: 1324365 (LDS)

    Marriage 1907: Martha

    Name William Oberdieck Event Type Marriage Event Date 10 Mar 1907 Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Gender Male Age 29 Birth Year (Estimated) 1878 Father's Name Louis Oberdieck Mother's Name Katharine Peiper Spouse's Name Martha Voigt Eppler Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Age 32 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1875 Spouse's Father's Name Karl Voigt Spouse's Mother's Name Karoline Reutter

    WWI DR: The record is hard to read, wife Martha, living in Manhattan. William Overdieck born March 7, 1878 cabinet maker

    1920: 204 61st street, William Oberdeich 44, packer sporting goods, Martha Oberdeich 45, Henry Eppler 21, stepson, mechanic auto, Charles Eppler 18, stepson, Edward Eppler 15, step son, helper sporting goods, and three boarders.

    Death 1924: William Oberdieck, Event Type Death, Event Date 15 May 1924, Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, Address 204 East 61st Str., Gender Male, Age 46, Marital Status Married, Race White, Occupation retired, Birth Year (Estimated) 1878, Birthplace New York, Burial Date 19 May 1924, Cemetery Cedar Grove Cem., Father's Name Louis Oberdieck, Father's Birthplace Germany, Mother's Name Catherine Pieper, Mother's Birthplace Germany, Spouse's Name Martha Oberdieck

    1858: Martha Oberdieck Death Date: 15 Feb 1958 Cemetery: Cedar Grove Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Flushing, Queens County, New York, USA

1862 Tax: Oberdick Louis, Elizabeth and Van Brunt retail dealer in liquor

1866: May licence, Oberdeick, Louis, Elizabeth st Near Van Brunt

1867: Excise "Mill" list NOT included.

1868: Oberdieck Louis, restaurant, 77 Elizabeth, business directory.

1870: Brookly Eagle liquor dealers list VAN BRUNT near Elizabeth, Oberdecker, H.

Nothing in 1870 Directory under Oberdecker or Oberdieck, H at Van Brunt.

1871: Louis Oberdieck 1871 Home Van Brunt and Van Dyke Liquors Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1871

1870 Census: Ward 12, Louis Oberdeick 34, retail liquor dealer, Hannover/Prussia Catherine Oberdeick 28, Hanover/Prussia, Bertha Oberdieck 6, Henry Oberdieck 4, Annie Oberdieck 2, Francis Oberdieck 10/12

1872, 1876, 1877, 1878: Oberdieck, Louis liquors 34 Vandyke. No listing on Elizabeth street.

1873: A cook from a canal boat met up with a young Irishman at "Oberdyke's" saloon in "Elizabeth Street".

1874: Oberdieck, Louis 34 Van Dyke ..... Ortgies Alrens, saloon. (Columbia University Libraries online)

1876: Oberdieck, Louis 34 Van Dyke st ..... Orteges Ahrens Bar etc (Columbia University Libraries online)

1878: Oberdieck Louis, liquors, 34 Van Dyke

1895: Death: Oberdieck, Louis, 59 y, May 15 1895, 17493 Manhattan Birth c 1836

1900: Manhattan, Richard Chamberlain 48 Anna Chamberlain 32 Catherine Oberdieck 58, nine children 5 living

New York Deaths: (all that are listed under that spelling)
Oberdieck Catharine 85 y Sep 13 1927 21140 Manhattan [wife of Louis]
Oberdieck Eliza 1 y Sep 12 1884 503753 Manhattan
Oberdieck Louis 59 y May 15 1895 17493 Manhattan
Oberdieck William 46 y May 15 1924 13666 Manhattan [son of Louis and Catherine]

New York City Marriages:
Anna F Oberdieck 6 Jan 1883 Manhattan Richard Chamberlain 21984
Isabella Oberdieck 2 Mar 1884 Manhattan Thomas N McCormick 43314
John H E Oberdieck 14 Nov 1896 Manhattan Anna Prebich 17740
Minnie Oberdieck 2 Jun 1897 Manhattan Ernest J Grube 8608
William Oberdieck 10 Mar 1907 Manhattan Martha Eppler 7608
Marie Oberdieck 19 Aug 1918 Manhattan William T Austin 36082

Spelling: The most common spelling on the Internet appears to be OBERDIECK

Problem: Neither 77 Elizabeth or 34 Van Dyke are near Van Brunt.

1866: "The Cholera" Cases in the Cholera Hospital "Mary Hein widow age 34 Van Dyke near Van Brunt taken 5th inst. in collapse 9th"

1906: O'Brien, John No 34 Van dyke Street, Brooklyn, 1906.

1920: West 51st street, Manhattan, Anna Chamberlain 50, seamstress, widowed, Catherine Oberdieck 78, mother, widow

1940: Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan, 48 Rockwood Street East, own, Frank H Oberdieck 37, inspector, bonr New York, Elizaberth A Oberdieck 34, William H Oberdieck 5

1975: 50th wedding of Mr. and Mrs. Frank Oberdieck

"The couple was married July 12, 1925, in St. Catherine Sienna Catholic Church, New York City. The Oberdiecks moved to Ecorse in 1928, where they have lived in their East Rockwood Avenue home for 47 years. Frank Oberdieck is a retired McLouth Steel employee.

Mrs. Oberdieck is the former Elizabeth, "Elsie" Stahl. She and her husband have a son, William, of Ecorse, daughter-in-law, Liz, and one grandchild, Elizabeth"

1987: Frank Oberdieck died in Ecorse in 1987.

1994: Elizabeth Oberdieck died in Ecorse in 1994.

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