Oberdieck( Oberdykes), Louis, (listed as "H." Oberdecker), Van Brunt near
Elizabeth (now Beard) - "77"* Elizabeth
Louis Oberdieck was born in Germany circa 1836. He immigrated to the US
before 1856 when he had a grocery store on West 20th street in Manhattan.
By 1868 he had a business on Elizabeth street in Red Hook, Brooklyn.
He married Catherine Piper
(Variations of spellings of both first and last names) in 1863.
They had at least 6 children: Bertha (and aliases all starting with "B") circa 1864,
John Henry Ernest c 1866, Annie c. 1868,
Francis c 1869 died 1871, Minnie circa 1876 and William 1878.
The 1900 census indicates that they had 9 children 5 of whom lived.
Louis ran a liquor/restaurant/saloon business on Elizabeth streets
and on van Dyke streets in Brooklyn until at least 1878.
Louis died in Manhattan 1895. Catherine died in Manhattan in 1927.
None of the children stayed in Brooklyn or in the liquor/restaurant business.
Bertha married a well known vaudeville entertainer, Thomas McCormick. They
traveled the world ending up in Montague, Michigan.
They had one son, Sidney, who did not marry.
John Henry married and had at least two children, Annie (Marie) and Frank.
Frank died in Ecorse, Michigan in 1987.
Annie married Richard Chamberlain a hotel keeper. They did not have children and
lived in Westchester, New York. Minnie married Ernest Grube and later ____
Whitney. She died in San Diego California in 1963.
William married Martha Voigt Eppler. He had three stepsons, but does not appear to have had
chidden of his own.
He died in 1924
1850 ??? Luder Oberdieck
Age: 14
Birth Year: 1836
Birthplace: Massel
Residence : Massel
Date Mustered: 14 Sep 1850
Ship: Ocean
Port of Departure: Bremen
Destination: England und Constantinople, Die Turkei (Turkey)
Archive Name: Bremen Staatsarchiv
Archive Collection: 4,24-E.7 Musterungslisten der Schiffe, geführt vom Bremer Wasserschout, 1837 Juli- 1873 Mai
1856: Oberdieck, Louis, grocer, 80 W 20th street New York City
1859: Petition of Naturalization of "Luder" Oberdieck,
residing 20 street, 8 February 1856 -
renounced Hing of Hannover, NY Common Pleas.
1863: Luder Oberdieck
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 02 Aug 1863
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 27
Marital Status Single
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1836
Birthplace Germany
Spouse's Name Catherine Pieper
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 21
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1842
Spouse's Birthplace Germany
1868 Directory: Oberdieck, restaurant 77 Elizabeth street, Brooklyn
1870 Liquor list - "Oberdecker" under Miscellaneous "Elizabeth near Van Brunt."
*The 1886 map does NOT show 77 Elizabeth near Van Brunt or 34 Van Dyke near Van Brunt.
Birth: Louis Oberdieck born Hanover/Prussia Germany circa 1836.
According to his death certificate his mother's name was Bertha.
Immigration: :
Addresses:: "77 Elizabeth" and "34 Van dyke", Red Hook Brooklyn
Marriage: Catherine Piper [per marriage of their daughter and other
records from LDS]
Children:
- Bertha [Beatrice/Bertie] Oberdeick born circa 1864
Marriage:
Thomas Napier Pattinson McCormick
Children:
- Sidney Sidney James Mccormick
31 May 1886
Birthplace Manhattan, New York, New York, USA
Father's Name Thomas N. P. Mccormick
Mother's Name Batrise Isabella Oberdeik Mccormick
Death:
Sidney Mc Cormick
Event Type Death
Event Date 28 Oct 1957
Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Address 159 W Van Buren
Gender Male
Age 71
Marital Status Single
Race White
Occupation Laborer
Birth Date 31 May 1886
Birthplace New York City, , New York
Funeral Home Sisson Funeral Home
Burial Date 2 Nov 1957
Cemetery Oakgrove
Father's Name Thomas Mc Cormick
Mother's Name Beatrice Babetta
Informant's Name Edw Mar Arthur
In December 2015 Tom Walker wrote:
"One of my great uncles is Thomas Napier Pattinson McCormick.
He was a very well known music hall artist in North America and
Britain, performing from the 1880s to 1920s under his stage name of
Tom Brantford (after the town where he was born in 1858). I have one of his scrapbooks with newspaper cuttings. His wife was Beatrice, known as Bertha or Bertie. Her obituary notice in the Moneague Observer (Michigan) on 17 August 1944 (written by her son Sidney) states that "Beatrice Isabel Oberdieck was born 80 years ago in New York City. At 19 she met and married Thomas Napier McCormick ..."
One of the cuttings states: "My wife was a new York girl. Her father kept
a bid saloon in Red Hook, near Brooklyn."
I feel that these quotes establish without
any doubt that the Isabella Oberdieck
is the same as the Bertha Oberdeick 1864 you list under the children of
Louis Oberdieck.
Another obituary notice of Beatrice (supplied to me by Muskegon County
Genealogical Society, so I don't know the newspaper) states that
her surviving children are: "one son, Sidney, two sisters, Mrs
Anna Chamberlain, Blue Lake, and Mrs Minnie Whitney, San Diego, Calif.,
and a nephew and niece, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Oberdieck of Ecorse."
This would seem to establish that Minnie
is also a daughter of Louis Oberdieck, although she then has
another husband, --- Whitney, not the Ernest James Grube you name.
Of the other children on your list, Annie is clearly the Anna
Chamberlain named above. I have no records of any Henry or
Francis Oberdieck, so perhaps they died young.
I cannot offer any suggestions for William Oberdieck or
John Heinrich Ernst Oberdieck, although the parents names
in both cases seems to indicate clearly that they are of the same family.
LDS lists: "Isabella" Oberdieck
groom's name, Thomas N. P. Mccormick,
bride's name, "Isabella" Oberdieck
Marriage date: 02 Mar 1884
marriage place, Manhattan, New York, New York
groom's father's name: Samuel
groom's mother's name: Grace Caruthers
bride's father's name: Lewis
bride's mother's name: Catherine Peipei
indexing project (batch) number: M00557-2
system origin: New_York-ODM
source film number: 1570327 (LDS)
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership
heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned, Thomas
Napier McCormick and Richard Langley Evans, carrying on
business as Job Masters, at the George Hotel Stables, lialham-hill,
in the county of Surrey, under the style or firm of T.
Brantford and Company, was dissolved as and from the 30th day of
November, 1898, by mutual consent. All debts due to and
owing by the late firm will be received and paid by the said
Thomas Nnpier McCormick who will continue to carry on the above
business as heretofore - Dated the 11th day of January, 1899.
THOMAS NAPIER MCCORMICK.
The London Gazette, January 17, 1899
1901: 31 Mar 1901
Streatham, London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish Streatham
Ecclesiastical Parish The Ascension Balham Hill
Registration District Wandsworth
Residence Note Kenilford Road,
T Napier P Mccormick Head M 42 Canada, job master,
Betsie Mccormick Wife F 36 Brooklyn New York United States Of America B S
Sidney Mccormick Son M 14 New York City United States Of America B S
1915: The Montaque Observer - "Tom Brantford, the famous
"Scotch comedian," who built In Fruitvale last summer is returning
this spring and planning on building a beautiful little house. July 1, 1915
1940: Fruitville Road,
Blue Lake, Muskegon, Michigan,
Thomas McCormick 82, Canada, English,
Beatrice McCormick 75, New York
Sidney McCormick 52, New York, laborer, road
Find a Grave:
Brantford, Beatrice Isabelle "Bertie" McCormick 95572780,
b. 1864 d. Aug. 8, 1944 Oak Grove Cemetery,
Montague,
Muskegon County,
Michigan, USA,
Brantford, Thomas Napier McCormick 95572825,
b. 1856 d. Nov. 25, 1942
The 1944 obit in the Montague Observer of Beatrice Isabel Overdieck
quoted her son Sidney:
At 19 she met and married Thomas Napier Mccormick, who as a very youthful seaman, had seen her, a towheaded child playing
around the Erie Basin Dry dock, Brooklyn, when his ship had put in for repairs."
Bertie and Thomas formed a vaudeville team and toured the US, the British Isles and Europe.
They settled in Montague in 1929.
-
[John] Henry Ernest Oberdieck, 1866 to 1910
1896 Marriage:
John Heinrich Ernst Oberdieck
bride's name, Anna Prebich
marriage date, 14 Nov 1896,
marriage place: Manhattan, New York, New York
groom's father's name, Louis Oberdieck
groom's mother's name, Katherine,
bride's father's name, John Prebich,
bride's mother's name, Julie,,
indexing project (batch) number: M00585-7
system origin: New_York-ODM
source film number: 1487669
Children:
- Annie/Marie Oberdieck
Event Type Birth
Event Date 12 Feb 1898
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Female
Race White
Father's Name Henry Oberdieck
Father's Birthplace New York
Father's Age 32
Mother's Name Annie Prebich Oberdieck
Mother's Birthplace Austria
Mother's Age 27
Marie circa 1898 Marriage:
William T Austin
Marriage
19 Aug 1918
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Age 21
Marital Status Single
Birth Year (Estimated) 1897
Birthplace Manhattan
Father's Name Thomas
Mother's Name Bertha Wright
Spouse's Name Marie Oberdieck
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 20
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1898
Spouse's Birthplace Manhattan
Spouse's Father's Name Henry
Spouse's Mother's Name Anna "Crevich"
1925 Census:
William Austin Head M 21 New York,
Anna Austin Wife F 21 New York,
Lillian Austin Daughter F 1 New York,
Anna Oberdieck Mother-in-law F 52 Austria,
Francis Oberdieck Brother-in-law M 17 New York
-
Henry/Francis [Frank]
"Hendry" Oberdieck
Birth 19 Jul 1902
Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Father's Name Hendry Oberdieck
Father's Birthplace Brooklyn, N. Y.
Father's Age 36
Mother's Name Anna Prebich Oberdieck
Mother's Birthplace Ungar
Mother's Age 33
Marriage:
Child: William
1940: Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan
Frank H Oberdieck 37, inspector steel mill,
Elizaberth A Oberdieck 34,
William H Oberdieck 5
Death:
Francis H Oberdieck
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1902
Death Date: 26 Nov 1987
Gender: Male
Residence: Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan
Place of Death: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
1910: Death February 8, Henry Oberdieck beloved husband of Annie Oberdieck age 42 years,
353 E 65th street. Interment Lutheran.
1920: E 65th street, William Austin 21, chauffeur express business,
Anna Austin 21
Lillian Austin 1
[1 10/12]
Anna Oberdieck 52, laundress private family,
Francis Oberdieck 17, driver grocery store.
-
Annie Oberdeick, 1868
Marriage: Richard Chamberlain
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 06 Jan 1883
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Spouse's Name Anna Johanne Oberdieck
Spouse's Gender Female
1900 Census: West 98th Street,
Richard Chamberlain 48, waiter, born England,
Anna Chamberlain 32, born New York, married 17 years,
Catherine Oberdieck 58, widow 9 children 5 living, born Germany
1910: Port Chester Ward 4, Westchester, New York
West Chester Ave, Richard Chamberlain 58, hotel keeper,
Anna J Chamberlain 43,
Beatrice M Chamberlain 22,
John C Van Haughten 61, boarder,
Nellie Godowsky 21, hotel servant,
Frank Godowsky 29, hotel servant,
Also listed as a widow in 1920 with Catherine age 78. -
Francis [Frank?] Oberdieck c 1869
1871 - Died Oberdieck, on Thursday June 1, August J Frank, youngest son of Louis and
Catherine Oberdieck age 2 1/2 years and 10 days, The World, June 6 1971.
- Minnie circa 1876
1897 Marriage:
Minnie Oberdieck
groom's name, Ernest James Grube,
marriage date, 02 Jun 1897,
marriage place: Manhattan, New York, New York
groom's father's name, Ernest Grube,
groom's mother's name: Martha
bride's father's name, Louis Oberdieck
bride's mother's name, Katharine
indexing project (batch) number: M00695-4
system origin: New_York-ODM
source film number: 1487675
Per Tom Walker December 2015 Minnie was later married to ____ Whitney and lived in
San Diego California.
1930: 3555 Chamoune Avenue San Diego, Minnie Whitney, age 54, widow, housekeeper private family
1940: 3555 Chamoune Avenue, San Diego, Minnie L Whitney 64, widowed, born New York, own
1963: Minnie C Whitney
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1875
Death Date: 20 Feb 1963
Death Place: San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name: "Pipper", California Death
- William Oberdieck (1878-1924) -
Date of birth: 09 Mar 1878
born Brooklyn, Kings, New York
father's name, Louis Oberdieck,
mother's name, Friederike Catharine Piper,
indexing project C71519-8
source film number: 1324365 (LDS)
Marriage 1907: Martha
Name William Oberdieck
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 10 Mar 1907
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 29
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Father's Name Louis Oberdieck
Mother's Name Katharine Peiper
Spouse's Name Martha Voigt Eppler
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 32
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Spouse's Father's Name Karl Voigt
Spouse's Mother's Name Karoline Reutter
WWI DR: The record is hard to read, wife Martha, living in Manhattan.
William Overdieck born March 7, 1878 cabinet maker
1920: 204 61st street,
William Oberdeich 44, packer sporting goods,
Martha Oberdeich 45,
Henry Eppler 21, stepson, mechanic auto,
Charles Eppler 18, stepson,
Edward Eppler 15, step son, helper sporting goods,
and three boarders.
Death 1924:
William Oberdieck,
Event Type Death,
Event Date 15 May 1924,
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States,
Address 204 East 61st Str.,
Gender Male,
Age 46,
Marital Status Married,
Race White,
Occupation retired,
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878,
Birthplace New York,
Burial Date 19 May 1924,
Cemetery Cedar Grove Cem.,
Father's Name Louis Oberdieck,
Father's Birthplace Germany,
Mother's Name Catherine Pieper,
Mother's Birthplace Germany,
Spouse's Name Martha Oberdieck
1858:
Martha Oberdieck
Death Date: 15 Feb 1958
Cemetery: Cedar Grove Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Flushing, Queens County, New York, USA
1862 Tax: Oberdick Louis, Elizabeth and Van Brunt retail dealer in liquor
1866: May licence, Oberdeick, Louis, Elizabeth st Near Van Brunt
1867: Excise "Mill" list NOT included.
1868: Oberdieck Louis, restaurant, 77 Elizabeth, business directory.
1870: Brookly Eagle liquor dealers list VAN BRUNT near
Elizabeth, Oberdecker, H.
Nothing in 1870 Directory under Oberdecker or Oberdieck, H at Van Brunt.
1871: Louis Oberdieck
1871
Home Van Brunt and Van Dyke
Liquors
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1871
1870 Census: Ward 12, Louis Oberdeick 34, retail liquor dealer, Hannover/Prussia
Catherine Oberdeick 28, Hanover/Prussia,
Bertha Oberdieck 6,
Henry Oberdieck 4,
Annie Oberdieck 2,
Francis Oberdieck 10/12
1872, 1876, 1877, 1878:
Oberdieck, Louis liquors 34 Vandyke. No listing on Elizabeth street.
1873:
A cook from a canal boat met up with a young Irishman at "Oberdyke's" saloon in "Elizabeth Street".
1874: Oberdieck, Louis 34 Van Dyke ..... Ortgies Alrens, saloon. (Columbia University Libraries online)
1876: Oberdieck, Louis 34 Van Dyke st ..... Orteges Ahrens Bar etc
(Columbia University Libraries online)
1878: Oberdieck Louis, liquors, 34 Van Dyke
1895:
Death: Oberdieck, Louis, 59 y, May 15 1895, 17493 Manhattan Birth c 1836
1900: Manhattan, Richard Chamberlain 48
Anna Chamberlain 32
Catherine Oberdieck 58, nine children 5 living
New York Deaths: (all that are listed under that spelling)
Oberdieck Catharine 85 y Sep 13 1927 21140 Manhattan [wife of Louis]
Oberdieck Eliza 1 y Sep 12 1884 503753 Manhattan
Oberdieck Louis 59 y May 15 1895 17493 Manhattan
Oberdieck William 46 y May 15 1924 13666 Manhattan [son of Louis and Catherine]
New York City Marriages:
Anna F Oberdieck
6 Jan 1883 Manhattan Richard Chamberlain 21984
Isabella Oberdieck
2 Mar 1884 Manhattan Thomas N McCormick 43314
John H E Oberdieck
14 Nov 1896 Manhattan Anna Prebich 17740
Minnie Oberdieck
2 Jun 1897 Manhattan Ernest J Grube 8608
William Oberdieck
10 Mar 1907 Manhattan Martha Eppler 7608
Marie Oberdieck
19 Aug 1918 Manhattan William T Austin 36082
Spelling:
The most common spelling on the Internet appears to be OBERDIECK
Problem: Neither 77 Elizabeth or 34 Van Dyke are near Van Brunt.
1866: "The Cholera" Cases in the
Cholera Hospital "Mary Hein widow age 34 Van Dyke near Van Brunt
taken 5th inst. in
collapse 9th"
1906:
O'Brien, John No 34 Van dyke Street, Brooklyn, 1906.
1920: West 51st street, Manhattan,
Anna Chamberlain 50, seamstress, widowed,
Catherine Oberdieck 78, mother, widow
1940:
Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan, 48 Rockwood Street East, own,
Frank H Oberdieck 37, inspector, bonr New York,
Elizaberth A Oberdieck 34,
William H Oberdieck 5
1975:
50th wedding of Mr. and Mrs. Frank Oberdieck
"The couple was married July 12, 1925, in St. Catherine Sienna Catholic Church, New York City. The Oberdiecks moved to Ecorse in 1928, where they have lived in their East Rockwood Avenue home for 47 years. Frank Oberdieck is a retired McLouth Steel employee.
Mrs. Oberdieck is the former Elizabeth, "Elsie" Stahl.
She and her husband have a son, William, of Ecorse, daughter-in-law, Liz,
and one grandchild, Elizabeth"
1987:
Frank Oberdieck died in Ecorse in 1987.
1994: Elizabeth Oberdieck died in Ecorse in 1994.
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