THE DEPPERMANS - RED HOOK BROOKLYN SALOON OWNERS MID 1880S
Frederick Depperman born Germany c 1825, Ferdinando Depperman born in Germany c 1843, and his son,
Ferdinand born New York 1873, owned saloons at India Wharf at the Atlantic Basin in Red Hook.
1870 Brooklyn Eagle liquor dealer list under MISCELLANEOUS, "F. (Ferdinan), India Wharf"
Depperman, Fredinando, (1843-), India Wharf,
liquor, Depperman, Ferdinan(d), (c 1873 -) India Wharf, liquor dealer, and his wife, Anna Ropke Deppermann Meyers
Note: Fredinando Depperman died in 1877 leaving Anna Ropke Depperman with two very small children ages 4 and 1.
She ran the saloon at least until her remarriage circa 1883. She was listed in the 1880 census as a saloon keeper and in the 1881 directory as a saloon keeper.
Birth of Fredinando Depperman: c 1843 Germany
Marriage: Anna Margretha Ropke - born circa 1853 daughter
of William Ropke and
Anna M _______
Children of Ferdinand Depperman and Anna Ropke Depperman:
- ✟Friedrich Wilhelm Deppermann
birth date: 04 Mar 1871
birthplace: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
father's name: "Friedrich" Wilhelm F. Deppermann
mother's name: Anna Margretta Ropke
indexing project (batch) number: C71517-9
system origin: New_York-ODM
source film number: 1324348
✟ DEPPERMANN FREDERICK WILLIAM 1871-08-14 10964 51
- Fernando (1872 - 1938) and Martha Rathje
(c. 1874 - 1966)
Fernando William Deppermann
baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1872
baptism/christening place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
birth date: 25 Jun 1872
birthplace: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
father's name: Fredrick Wilhelm Ferdinand Deppermann
mother's name: Anna Margaretha Ropke
indexing project (batch) number: C04288-9
system origin: New_York-ODM
source film number: 1324350
Marriage: Martha Rathje
1910: Ward 8, 57th street Fernando Depperman 37, merchant wine and liquor, emp,
Martha Depperman 35
Ethel Depperman 12
Fernando Depperman Jr. 8
Edward Depperman 4
Carolina Rathje 70, mother in law
- Ethel Deppermann, listed with her parents in the 1910 census
3 Jan 1898
Jun 1970 - Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
Fernando (c 1902 - 1991)
1930 Census: North Plainfield, Somerset, New Jersey Fernando Depperman 28, engineer, electician,
Margaret Depperman 26
Marriage: Margaret Lawson
1940 Census: North Plainfield, Somerset, New Jersey, Regent Street,
Fernardo Depperman 38, engineer,
Margert Depperman 36
Kenneth Depperman 6
Kenneth R. Depperman, circa 1934
United States Coast Guard Acadamy graduate, class of 1955.
1954: Death of Margaret Lawson Deppermann North Plainfield, N. J. of 42 Regent street,
formerly of Brooklyn wife of Fernando Depperman, mother of Kenneth F.
Buried Hillside Cemetery.
Marriage: Clara L. Udey
Death 1991: Fernando Depperman, age 89 member of the local glee club died at
Muhlenberg Regional Medical Center in Planefield, New Jersey in May 1991.
He was born in Brooklyn and had lived in North Planefield since 1928.
He got a bachelors degree in engineering from NYU in 1931. He worked at Western Union Telegraph Co for 50 years
before retiring in 1967.
He was survived by is wife, Clara L. Udey and a son, Captain Kennet R Depperman, of Scituate, Mass.
Edward F. of West Babylon New York and three grandchildren
- Edward (c. 1906 - )
Farnan Depperman 57, stock clerk,
Martha Depperman 50,
Ethel Depperman 27,
Fernanda Depperman 23,
Edward Depperman 20, son,
Carrie Rathje 85, mother in law
1930: Edward Depperman 25, slaesman,
Evelyn Depperman 22
1940: Edward Depperman 34, salesman milk company,
Evelyn Depperman 31,
Carole Depperman 6,,
Priscilla Depperman 4
1925: 57th street,
Farna-- Depperman 57, stock clerk,
Martha Depperman 50
Ethel Depperman 27, book keeper,
Fernando Depperman 23, engineer,
Edward Depperman 20, book keeper,
Carrie Rathje 85, mother in law
1930: 57th Street, Fernando Depperman 56, Own, $-,000, stock clerk store,
Martha Depperman 54
Ethel Depperman 31, daughter,
Death of Martha Rathje Depperman: ✟ Martha Depperman
11 Oct 1874
Dec 1966 - Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
1940 Census: North Plainfield, Somerset, New Jersey Fernardo Depperman 38, Own, College, 4th year, Assistant Engineer
Margert Depperman 36,
Kenneth Depperman 6
Death of Fernando Depperman:
✟ Depperman Fernando W 65 y Apr 26 1938 9086 Kings
- Fredrick J. (c 1876 - ) and Bertha L.
Children: The 1910 census listed Bertha Deppermann as having two children NONE living.
- Ethel c 1899, per 1908 voyage, NOT in the 1910 census, NOT listed in NYC Death Index in Kings.
- Hermann c. 1901, per 1908 voyage, NOT in the 1910 census, NOT listed in NYC Death Index in Kings.
1901, 1904, 1906, 1907: Fred'k J Depperman
1901, 1904, 1906, 1907
Brooklyn, New York
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1901
1900: Ward 12, Dikeman Street at Ferris, Edward Meyer 48, immigrated 1866, Naturalized, Anna Meyer
50, 7 children 7 living, Frederick J Depperman 24, saloon keeper, Lillie J Meyer 17, dress maker, Stella W Meyer 14, Harry H Meyer 13
1904: November 26, Depperman, F. J.
81 Ferris Street.....India Wharf B. Co. Saloon and Restaurant fixtures,
(R) 1,500 (Real Estate Record and Builders' Guide, Volume 74)
Deppermann, Fritz, age 33 US citizen,
Bertha age 33, US Citizen,
Ethel age 9 US Citizen,
Hermann age 7 US Citizen
to New York, New York
on the Main May 7, 1908
1910 Census: Ward 12, 83 Ferris Street, Franke Depperman 33, wine merchant liquor emp,
Bertha L Depperman 33, married 9 years 2 children 0 living,
Barbara Lrushun ??? 21, border
1912: Fred J Depperman 81 Ferris Street, Excise licence
1915: Wallkill, Orange, New York, Fred Depperman 37, farming,
Bertha Depperman, wife, 37,
Barbara Trushein 25 cousin,
Harry Meyer 27, 1/2 brother, farming.
Death of Frederick Depperman: DEPPERMANN FREDERICK J.
1917-01-08 10964 51,
Greenwood. Same plot as Fredrick William, 1871,
Helena 1874 (Depperman Olena 8 y Aug 10 1874 7962 Kings),
Johna 1875 (Deppermann John 2 m Jul 2 1875 5602 Kings ),
and Fredrick C. F. 1877 (Deppermann Ferdinand F C 38 May 5 1877 3610
Bertha L Depperman
born, New York,
Middletown, Orange, New York
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Able to Read: Yes
attendant in Middletown State Homeopathic Hospital
More on Bertah L Depperman: She went to Cuba in 1929 and 1931
and to Bermuda in
Death of Bertha Depperman: Bertha L. Depperman
17 Jan 1949
Greenwood, Kings, NY USA, lot 26155, section 203
Naturalization: Ferdinand Depperman
19 Oct 1868
New York, naturalization (and/or) Deppermann, Ferdinand city Court, Brooklyn, July 19, 1870, Prussian
1870 Census: Depperman, Ferdinan 27, ret liquor dealer, $500 Prussia,
Bauter, John 20, bartender, 1870 census (he is two away from Ehricks, Peter)
1870, Sailing: "Mr. Depperman", Cabin class,
Arrival Date: 3 Aug 1870,
Age: 21, grocer,
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: Brooklyn, New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Ship Name: Russia
Note: I am assuming some connection between Frederick Deppermann and Fernando
1873: Fredinand Dipperman, who kept a liquor store on India Wharf,
accused a tenant, Gus Hayes, age 22, of having stolen
a diamond ring worth $150 that belonged to Depperman's wife. Hayes acknowledged the crime.
1875 Census: India Wharf, Ward 12, Brick building, "Frederick" Depperman
M 34, father, liquors,
Anne Depperman F 21,
Ferdinand Depperman M 3,
John Depperman M 2 months,
Carl Depperman M 24, "son" (son cannot be correct)
1872, 1874, 1879,
18 India wf
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1872, 1874, 1879
✟Death of Ferdinan Depperman - May 5, 1877 (Deppermann Ferdinand F C 38 May
5 1877 3610 Kings)
Probate: Anna Margaretha Depperman, 18 India Wharf, City of Brooklyn,
widow of Fernando Depperman, died 5 May 1877, widow two children:
Fernando Wilhelm Deppermann age 4 years June 25 past and Johann
Friedrich Depperman age 1 year the
24th of April past.
1879: City Directory, Liquors, Deppermann Ferdinand, India Wharf n. N. Pier
1880 Census: Under "Dipermnan" at India Wharf, Ann, 25, widow, saloon keeper,
Fernando age 7 son, Fredrick age 4 son, all born New York, Ropke, Richard, age 28, Bartender, Germany,
Alsessa Christine age 15, servant,
Priest, Louis, age 28, bartender.
There was quite a cluster of liquor dealers near the Atlantic docks in 1880.
In addition to Anna Depperman, there was George Cordes on Conover Street,
Peter Ehrichs on India Wharf, Peter Donnelly on Summit and Henry Mohn on Summit,
who were all listed together in the census.
1881 Directory: Dipperman, Anne, wid, Ber. liquors, 19 India Wharf
Remarriage of his widow, Anna Ropke Depperman, before 1883.:
Edward Meyers, they had three children: Lilly, Stella and Harry. See Meyers
1892 Census: Brooklyn Ward 12 ED 04,
Deppermann, Frenando N age 20 born US, no occupation
Deppermann, Fredrich age 16, born US, no occupation. - Edward Meyer, age 35, Germany,
Anny Meyer age 34, Lily Meyer, age 9,
Stella Myer age 5 and Harry Meyer age 3
1901 and 1902 directories: Fernando Depperman, 86 Carroll street, liquors.
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1902
Death of Fernando Depperman, 1938: Depperman Fernando W 65 y Apr 26 1938 9086 Kings (born circa 1873)
DEPPERMANN "FREDERICK C.F." 1877-05-07 10964 51 (Deppermann "Ferdinand F C" 38 May 5 1877 3610 Kings)
DEPPERMANN FREDERICK J. 1917-01-08 10964 51
DEPPERMANN FREDERICK WILLIAM 1871-08-14 10964 51
DEPPERMANN HELENA 1874-08-12 10964 51 (Depperman "Olena" 8 y Aug 10 1874 7962 Kings)
DEPPERMANN "JOHNA" 1875-07-04 10964 51 (Deppermann John 2 m Jul 2 1875 5602 Kings)
Edward Meyers born c 1857 in Germany married Anna Ropke Depperman, the daughter of
Liquor dealer, William Ropke and the widow of
Liquor dealer, Fernando Depperman. See Meyers
Black, and Meyers
81 Ferris Street:
1889: Department of Fire, October 27, 6:38 P. M. Station 256,
81 Ferris Street, 4 story brick dwelling (Message of mayor, with annual reports of departments of city government
By Brooklyn (New York, N.Y.) 1889.
1890: William H. Cain was listed at 81 Ferris Street in Lain's Business Directory
of Brooklyn, Kings County, Long Island City 1890.
William H. Kane (son of John Victor Kane and Bridget Kerrigan) was born April 01, 1855 in New York, and died January 18, 1893 in 81 Ferris St. Brooklyn, NY.
1896: Probate: Petitioner Anna Meyer 81 Ferris Street, Brooklyn widow and sole legatee - will dated July 1896 witnessed by Francis P Brophy, John H. Wiecken (since dead) and Fernando W. Depperman - Lillie, Stella and Harry Meyer all 81 Ferris Street.
1899: December 2, 1899: Deppermann, f. J. 81 Ferris ..... India Wharf B Co. $1,500
( Real estate record and builders' guide (v.64no.1633(July 1 1899)-no.1659(Dec. 30 1899))
(New York, F. W. Dodge Corp. Columbia University Digital collection)
1902, 1903, 1906, 1912: Frederick J Deppermann
New York, New York
Publication Title: New York, New York, City Directory, 1902, 1903, 1906, 1912
1904: Depperman, F. J. 81 Ferris Street, India Wharf B. Co. real estate
transfer. (R) $1,500
Deppermann, Lena M. Brooklyn 81 Ferris Street,
Annual Report of the State Commissioner of Excise, Volume 2
By New York (State). Dept. of Excise, 1913
1914: Leach, George A was listed at 81 Ferris Street Brooklyn Annual Report of the State Commissioner of Excise of ..., Volume 2; Volume 18
By New York (State). Dept. of Excise
1951: 81 Ferris was described as a one story frame, Brooklyn Eagle, July 2, 1952.
2004: The lot that faces Ferris with an address of 81 Ferris St. is 200 feet
by 80 feet and runs the full block from Dikeman to Coffey Street.(
Prime Development Site in Red Hook
by Linda Collins, 2004)
Thieves broke into Dell's Cherries, 81 Ferris Street, in Red Hook last week, where thousands of dollars in jewelry was taken from a safe.
2013: The Brooklyn property located at 81 Ferris Street,
NY 11231 owned by Dell's Maraschino Cherries has a market value
of $1,218,000. nyc-property-values.findthedata.org
Cops were told that the cherry wholesaler was closed for the night at 10 p.m. on September 7. Workers opened up at 4 a.m. the following morning to find a set of office drawers opened and rifled through.
A safe inside the office was also broken open. About $90,000 worth of property inside, which included a pricey $40,000 watch, the 51-year-old business owner told police.
Investigators said it was unclear just how the thieves got into the office,
although the security alarm had been found ripped off the wall.
By Tom Tracy, September 30, 2008
81 Ferris street circa 1900. Image courtesy of Douglas Depperman, June 2013
See large image Red Hook Liquor Dealers
Depperman (Dipperman), Fredrick C (Charles?) AKA Fred, (1825?-1874) Prussia, Germany, 5 Commercial
India Wharf, "Our House" and 5 Commercial
1870 Brooklyn Eagle liquor dealer list MISCELLANEOUS 5 Commercial
Birth: c 1825 Germany
Marriage: Catherine per 1850 census
1850 Ward 6: Frederick Depperman age 30, merchant,
Catherine age 28, George age 7 William age 4
- George c 1843
Nothing else on him on Ancestry or LDS
- William c 1846
Per 1850 census
Nothing else on him on Ancestry or LDS
Death of Catherine Depperman:
Marriage: Lizzetta born c 1838 - after 1860 before 1870
(Depperman Fred Dec 08 1867 Kings 1568)
Note: He would have been 42 years old. Possibley a second marriage.
Naturalization of Liesette Depperman: Dieppermann, Liesette, common Pleas, Aug 12, 1869 Brooklyn, witness, Edward Hilkey, Brooklyn
1856: Fredrick C Depperman was elected supervision of the 12th Ward.
1857: DEPPERMAN FREDERICK, C grocer, Summit c Commercial and 6 Hamilton ave.
FREDERICK C DEPPERMANN, dealer in provisions, wines, liquors, and groceries,
No 1 Summit st Cor Commercial and 6 Hamilton av South Brooklyn
1858: Also listed in Smiths Directory in 1858.
Smith's Brooklyn Directory, 1857
Frederick C Depperman
34, Liqour dealer $500,
Brooklyn Ward 12 District 1, Kings, New York
Henry W Meyer 35, clerk
Residence Year: 1862, 1864, 1865,
Street Address: 1 Summit
Residence Place: Brooklyn, New York
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory
Deppermann, Fred C. 1 Summit at retail dealer in liquor.
Civil War Registration 1863-65: Commercial and Summit: Deppermann, Fredrick, age 40 unmarried
liquor dealer, born Germany.
1866: May "Fred, Dippermann, Commercial and Summit, a resort of counterfeiters,
and this is a very bad place;
proprietor now under indictment. Refused.
1866 licence review: Fred Dipperman corner Summit and commerce was arrested on charge of receiving
stolen goods but was acquitted.
Nothing in past against place, licence granted.
May 1866: "A man reputed to be worth $200,00 on trial for receiving stolen goods." Frederick Deppermann
a German and keeper of a "large grocery and liquore store on the corner of Summit and Commerical"
was arrested for receiving stolen goods. The witness testified that a silver tea set stolen from
turned up at
Deppermann's store in a black carpet bag that had actually been stolen by two men who left it in the store.
Deppermann said he had no knowledge of the stolen good nor how and why they were left in his store.
1869: Frederick C Deppermann
Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1869
1870: Directory, Deppermann, Fredrick C. 5 Commerical wf n Atlantic docks, liquors
1870 census: Depperman, Fred, 44, ret grocer, $16,000, Prussia, Lizzie 32, Mechlinburgh and a clerk
1872: April, Fredrick "Dipperman", a Germany, who kept a "cigar store" on Commercial Wharf at Commercial street, pressed
assault charges against James Horohue. Dippermann's store was called "Our House".
It was stated that Dipperman allowed small boys to hang out in the store and play cards and dominos for drink and money.
James Horohue's brother had been in the store and he went to fetch him home.
Dipperman and Horohue got in an argument and Dipperman threatened Horohue with a club and Horohue threw an ink bottle
at Dipperman. Dipperman was said to have kept a "common liquore store that catered to sailors
and men who worked around the dock.
Dipperman was also said to have been in trouble before with one case involving stolen goods.
The police were frequently called
to make arrests in the "place" for theft. "Rows were common at Dipperman's.
Commerical wharf was a narrow street which lead from Hamilton to the Atlantic Basin.
Dipperman's was described thus:
"Half way down, on the left side, was a dingy looking three story brick building, with a wooden awning
in front of it. Under the awing
were a couple of dingy
looking windows, divided by a dingy looking door, above
which in dingy looking letters were the words
When the reporter and policeman arrived 10 or 12 "boys" were hanging around the stove,
talking, smoking and chewing tobacco. "Everyone" of whom "had State Prison written all over them".
The insinuation was that they were "newsies" (news boys) but reference was also make
to them working in the local factories.
The article goes on to describe the interior of the saloon:
"When you enter the door you immediately detect the atmosphere of a Dutch grocery, which is accounted
for by sundry
bolognas, blood puddings, pieces of Sweitzer, Limberger cheese, Dutch herring and pickled tongues, which
are spread out to view upon the counter, behind which are a number of glass
covered drawers containing crackers and
they in turn are capped by shelves, on which appear in dusty irregularity bottles of sauce,
capers, schnapps, whisky, more herring, candles, blacking, black lead, and other miscellaneous articles.
A letter to the editor by Philip Rosenbaum claimed
that the fly paper on the ceiling was not several years old.
A little further up, and the the aforesaid counter terminates and the bar commences. The bar itself
is one of undoubted substance, and will and has, no doubt, stood a good deal of hard usage. The shelves
at the back support bottles of all shapes and sizes.
The is an ale pump and a marble arrangement out of which lager is drawn. But above all these are the objects
of interest. Curiosities from all parts of the world adorn
the wall at the back of the bar - a pair of spurs from Mexico, a Russian sabre,
an old fashioned pistol, stag horns, old muskets, a straw hat peculiar in its make
and having considerable brim - while on an old wooden closet were about six or seven silver water
pitchers which were actually black with dust and tarnished from being used.
The ceiling was covered with fly paper from the appearance of which the reporter was led to believe that it had been
put up several years ago, giving a still dirtier effect to the entire establishment
and making the place very much similar to one of the lowest of Water street dance houses."
Fred'K G Deppermann
Residence Year: 1873
Street Address: 13 Commercial
Residence Place: Brooklyn, New York
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1873
Dipperman, proprietor of the den at Hamilton ferry, was arrested two weeks ago for violation of the Excise Law.
He was tried by jury and declared not guilty.
Eliza Schmadeke plaintiff against Fredrick C Depperman and Lizette Depperman his wife,
John Schmadeke and
Gunthur Mendorf in pursuance of a judgement of foreclosure on a parcel of land
in the 12th Ward,
southeasterly corner of
Summit and Connover, AKA No 13 Commercial Wharf.
In 1876 Henry Cordes was listed at 13 commercial Wharf.
See CONOVER near Partition. Schmadeke
SUMMIT STREET Henry Cordes.
1883: July, 1 barrel of Kerosine oil was illegally sold to Fred Dipperman No 1 Summit
Street. The oil was stollen in transit from Jersey City to Brooklyn.
DEPPERMAN LEZZETTA 1888-11-21 17263 15 (Depperman Lizzette 50 y Nov 20 1888 16110 Kings)
DEPPERMANN CONRAD F. 1874-12-27 17263 15 (not listed death index)
Middle Pier House
In a 1906 article about the break up of the India Wharf brewery the following was stated:
The property is a valuable one, fronting both on Hamilton avenue and on the India wharf of
Atlantic dock. It runs from Conover street to the building
of the Sonoma Wine company, near the ferry.
Included in it are the houses on the avenue and the sheds and molasses house fronting
on the India wharf as well as the saloon know as Middle Pier House, which is opposite
the North Central pier, in which J. S. T. Stranahan was outwitted.
The man who planned and built Atlantic Dock threw every possible legal safeguard around
the great property to secure his own interests in it.
One was that no business house should be erected on the India wharf. A smart German got a lease of the Middle Pier House
site and made up his mid to start a saloon there. He had a house framed and ready to put up and one Saturday
afternoon trucks and wagons began to dump lumber on the wharf.
Scores of framers and carpenters appeared and set to work.
No injunction could be procured and before the courts opened on Monday morning the house was up and
the saloon in full operation. It remained so for many years and after the brewery came in
possession a brick structure replace the old frame one. "
Middle Pier House on India wharf had a lease which expired May 1, 1894,
"at one thousand dollars a year."
The Middle Pier house was at sometime replaced by a brick structure.