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Peter Goehle was born January 28, 1852 in Herrnsheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse (Germany) the son of Louisa Harbauer and Franz Goehle, tailor. Peter immigrated to New York City in 1873. Peter married Catherine Christ in 1875. They had nine children between 1875 and 1888 when Catherine died from complications of the birth of their tenth child. Three months after Catherine's death Peter married Minnie Lindemann. Peter and Minnie had four children between 1889 and 1899. Peter Goehle died in 1917.
Birth 1852, Herrnshiem
Peter Goehle was born January 28, 1852 in Herrnsheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse (Germany) the son of Louisa Harbauer and Franz Goehle, a tailor. See The Goehles in Herrnsheim Germany
Herrnsheim, Hessen Darmstdt, Germany
Hessen-Darmstadt was a former Duchy (1567-1918) in the central highlands of what is today Germany. Herrnsheim is a village a few miles north of Worms.
Occupation of Peter Goehle
Peter's occupation was listed as a butcher on every document connected with him except: the birth certificate of his daughter Louise, in 1880, where he was listed as a laborer, the 1882, 1888, and 1898-99 city directory when he was listed as a clerk, and the 1900 census when he was listed as a provision dealer.
Agnes Goehle Land said that he had a butcher shop in Yorkville in Manhattan. See below.
Immigration of Peter Goehle, 1873
Peter Goehle immigrated to the United States on August 25th, 1873 on the R.M.S. Batavia from Liverpool and Queenstown.
He was listed as a 23 years old butcher from Germany.
Along with Peter, there were 338 passengers in steerage and a total of 434 passengers on board.
This information was taken from the ship manifest of the R.M.S. Batavia.
Peter immigrated 20 years before Ellis Island opened. However, in Island of Hope, Island of Tears, a book about immigration through Ellis Island, there is a line about immigrant ships that regularly crossed the Atlantic,
"a great many small ships, with names now long forgotten-- Austor-Americana, Lydia, Susquehanna, Batavia. "
While the Batavia was no Titanic, she could not have been that small if she was carrying 434 passengers. There were a lot of ships with far less passengers.
The ship that Peter Goehle immigrated on was built in 1870. A second ship also named, Batavia, was built in 1899.
The Family History Center Library has the exit visas from Hessen/Darmstadt from 1819 to 1880. Unfortunately, the G's for 1872 to 1880 are missing.
For general information on immigration go to Immigration now or at the bottom of the page.
First Marriage of Peter Goehle to Catherine Christ 1875
According to the civil record for the City of New York:
On March 28, 1875, Peter Goehle, residing at 139 Pitt St., New York, age, 23, occupation, butcher, father, Franz Goehle, mother, Louisa Harbauer, place of birth, Herrnsheim, GermanyRev. B. Krusi was the minister at the German Presbyterian Church at 290 Madison Street. The records for this church are available through LDS. The church record, written in German is translated as follows:
Peter Goehle age 23, butcher, born Hernsheim Hessen Darmstadt, 139 Pitt St and Catherine Christ, age 23, born Griesheim Nassau, 49 Stanton St, witnesses George Albert and Mathilde Roth 49 Stanton.
German Churches of Metropolitan New York: A Research Guide by Richard Haberstroh lists this church as Second German Evangelical Reformed, Madison Street Presbyterian, German Presbyterian, German Old School. He says it was founded on Grand and East Broadway in 1842 and moved to Grant near Willet in 1852 when it became the Madison St Presbyterian Church. In 1857 the location of the church was at Madison and Montgomery. He lists among the pastors, J. Bartholomew Krusi.
Madison Street runs parallel to East Broadway. Today there are modern high rise apartments where the church once stood.
139 Pitt Street has also been torn down.
Neither Catherine Christ nor her parents were listed in the 1870 census. Balbine was not listed in later censuses. Peter Christ was a very common name.
Children of Peter Goehle and Catherine Christ
1879 New York City Directory
Goehle, Peter, butcher h 80 Pitt
Goehles in The 1880 United States Census
I could not find Peter Goehle and family in the 1880 census. Frequently people were missed for one reason or another.
There were no Goehles at all listed in the 1880 census in New York City.
1882 New York City Directory
Goehle, Peter, clerk h 73 Broome
1882-83 New York City Directory
Goehle, Peter, butcher h 63 Columbia
Naturalization of Peter Goehle
On October 12, 1883, Peter Goehle, butcher, of 63 Columbia Street, New York City, was naturalized in the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York. Witness: Peter Schuessler, of 7 Jackson Street, NYC. According to the law before 1922, Catherine automatically become a citizen with him.
Naturalization papers before 1906 usually do not contain much information. Peter's papers were more helpful than most. On his Application he said he had arrived in New York in August of 1873. This bit of information allowed me to find him listed on the ship manifest for the Batavia in August of 1873.
Notes on Peter Schuessler:
I believe that Peter Schuessler, witness may be my gg grandfather. He was living at 77 Broome St. NYC as per the 1880 census. He came to the US from Bavaria approx 1852 and I first found him in Michigan in the 1860 census. The 1880 census lists his occupation as cigar mfgr.
1884-85 New York City Directory
Goehle, Peter, butcher h 63 Columbia
1888 New York City Directory
Goehle, Peter, clerk, 63 Columbia
Death of Catherine Christ Goehle, 1888
On October 9, 1888 at 63 Columbia Street around 1:30 P.M. Catherine Goehle (senior) died of acute post partum hemorrhage. She was 34 years old and this was her 10th childbirth. She was buried with her stillborn infant at the Lutheran Cemetery on October 11, 1888.
Buried in the same grave are:
|The Tombstone of Catherine Christ Goehle, Frank Goehle, Frances Goehle, and John Perdue is modern and I assume erected about the time of the death of John Perdue in 1969.|
|Second Marriage of Peter Goehle
A little over three months after Catherine's death, on January 28 1889, Peter Goehle, of 63 Columbia Street City, age at next birthday, 37, occupation, butcher, place of birth, Herrnsheim, Hessen-Darmstadt, father, Franz Goehle, mother, Louse Harbauer, number of groom's marriages, 2, married Wilhelmine Lindemann, 90 Cannon Street, City, age at next birthday, 26, place of birth, New York City, father, Julius Lindemann, mother, Catherine First, number of bride's marriages, 1.
The witnesses were Charles Beyerkohler and Lorenz Harbauer. The minister was Conrad Doench, clergyman, at 64 Pitt Street. (New York City marriage license)
Conrad Doench was the minister at the Second German Presbyterian Church at 435 Houston Street from 1899-1900. I do not know where he was in 1889.
Children of Minnie and Peter
James Manion: Born circa 1892 Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York. Listed in the 1910 census on Main Street Amsterdam, Helen Ralligan, head age 57, widow, 5 children 1 still living, born New York, keeper boarding house, John B Manion, son age 34, widower (?), brick, Anna, Mc Dade, sister age 48 widow, 3 children 1 still living, knitting mill, James Manion, nephew, age 18 New York, brick, father born New York, mother born Scotland, and three boarders,
Marriage: James Manion, date and place unknown. Circa 1915 according to the 1930 census. I did not find the marriage listed in the New York City Archives.
"Margaret Manion Dixson and William Dixson were sister to Catherine and brother to James", Warren Chuck Hubbs March 2009
James Manion Draft Registration: James Manion, age 24, 60 Academy St Amsterdam, New York, born July 26, 1892, natural born, in Amsterdam, NY, USA, bricklayer, not employed, married, not supporting, white, Private 14th infantry 3 years, height, medium, weight, medium, eyes light blue, hair light brown, May 29, 1917, Amsterdam New York.
1920 Federal Census: Winifred was listed in the 1920 census with her mother, Minnie, her two children, John and Catherine, and her siblings, Frank and Rose, see below.
1925 New York State Census in Smithtown, Long Island:
They appear to have been the first Goehles to move to the area. Winifred's half sister, Marie, was listed in Smithtown in the 1930 census.
1930 Census: The were listed in the 1930 Federal Census in Smithtown, see below.
1940: Moriches Road Winifred Manion St James Smithtown, cook for robert and Virginia Malone, Robert age 42, born alabama $13,000 artist free lance, Virginia wife age 42, born Illinois, Manion, Winifred, cook, private, age 43 born New York, plus a maid
Note: Robert J Malone was a writer and cartoonist- a Smithtown superviser in 1944 and a editor and publisher of the Smithtown News.
Death of James Manion - 1963: James Alouyius Manion Veteran's Rank: CM2 Branch: US Navy Last known address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale , NY 11735-1211 Birth Date: 26 Jul 1892 Death Date: 10 Apr 1963 Veteran Service Start Date: 26 Jun 1942 Veteran Service End Date: 22 Apr 1943 Interment Date: 15 Apr 1963 Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery Buried At: Section 2h Site 2533
Death of Winifred Manion - 1969: Winifred Manion, Veteran's Rank: CM2, Branch: US Navy Relation Name: James Alouyius Manion Relationship: Wife Last known address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale , NY 11735-1211 Birth Date: 15 Dec 1889 Death Date: 29 Dec 1969 Interment Date: 2 Jan 1970 Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery Buried At: Section 2h Site 2533
Birth: Francisca Goehle born May 26, 1891, 88 Sheriff Street, father, Peter Goehle, age 39, born Germany, butcher, mother, Wilhelmina Lindemann, age 29, born in US, 2nd of 2 children, both living (NYC 1899 certificate #18073). She was most likely named after her paternal grandfather.
Marriage: Frances married Charlie Cruickshank, date and place unknown, after 1910 before 1914. Information provided by Peggie Goehle Edgar. I did not find a marriage record in NYC.
1917-18 Draft Registration: Charles Joseph Cruickshank, 1249 State NY, born June 8, 1890, natural born, New York City, US, pressman, employed in Magna Co, Schenectady, NY, wife and 2 children, married, white, dependants, tall and slender blue eyes and black hair.
1920 Census: Ridgewood, Queens, Madison Street, Charles Cruickshank, head, age 26, printer, Frances, wife age 26, Ellen daughter age 6 James son age 9 (?). All born New York
1930 Census: No
Social Security Death Index: Charles Cruickshank, Birth: 8 Jun 1893, Death: Oct 1967 - Utica, Oneida, New York, United States of America
Further Records: Peggie Edgar said that one or the other of them died in Kings Park Hospital.
Birth: Frank Goehle was born on March 6, 1894 at 88 Sheriff St. (Certificate of Birth, 12013, State of New York, 12013).
Birth: Margaret Goehle was born on April 23, 1897 at 374 E 4th St (Certificate of Birth State of New York 18426, 1897).
Marriage: Margaret Goehle married Joseph Muntyan on May 26, 1917. Margaret was living at 526 E. 85th Street, NYC. The witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. W. C. Sehlbrede. The minister was G. E. Sehlbrede, minister of the Gospel at 737 6th Street NYC. This church is still active.
1917-18 Draft Registration: Joseph Muntyan, 306, East 90th Street, NY, born January 29, 1897, Arad Hungary, father's birthplace, Servia, employer, NY RR Company, 99th St and Lexington Ave. relative, father and mother and wife, wife 815, --- St Brooklyn, can't read height and weight, Gray eyes and light brown hair. June 15, 1918.
Children: Margaret Goehle and Joseph Muntyan had at least three children:
1940 Census: New York, Queens, New York 78 Street, Joseph Muntyan 43, Margaret Muntyan 42 Margaret Muntyan 21 Joseph Muntyan 17 William Muntyan 14
WWII Dr: Joseph Muntyan, 72-59 61st St. Glendale, Queens, NY age 46, born Arad HUngary, wife Margaret Muntyan, employer, Andrew Geller 735 Lorimer St. Brooklyn
Death: Margaret Muntyan born April 23, 1897, died April 1980, 11379 Middle Village, Queens, SS#104-28-2848
Immigration: S. S. Leeland from Antwerp, July 2, 1904 Muntyan, Danielus????, age 25, Joseph age 6, Barbara age 4, Paula age 2, rickets, all born Arad, Hungary to father husband, Daniel in Wilmington, Del.
Naturalization: Daniel Muntyan, Birth Location: Hungary, Naturalization Date: 7 Jul 1904, Naturalization Record Type: Declaration of Intention, Court Type: Superior Court, Court Location: New Castle,
1910 Census: Wilmington, Del, Daniel Munyan 39, cabinet shop, Rudolphine Munyan 34, Joseph Munyan 14, Barbara Munyan 12, Pauline Munyan 9
1920: Daniel Muntyan 49, business agt, carpenters union, Rudolfine Muntyan 44, Joseph Muntyan 23, married, chauffer, Pauline Muntyan 18, Margaret Muntyan 1 grand daughter, [1 2/12]. Where is Margaret Goehle Muntyan?
Birth: "Lena" Goehle was born on October 22, 1899 at the Lying In Hospital (Certificate of Birth 39978 State of New York 1899). The family was living at 709 East 12th Street. She is listed as the 5th of 5 children. On this certificate her father is listed as Max. This is the only case of his being listed as anything except, Peter.
Marriage: Rose Goehle married August Bartels on June 17, 1922. Her address was listed as 1272 3rd Avenue. The witnesses were Marion Fitzimons and Edward Hayes. The marriage was performed at Christ Pres. Church by Theodore Havage, minister, residence 1 W. 64th Street.
August Bartels was born on May 28, 1899 and died in February 1974 in Farmingdale, New York SS#068-03-5817.
1925: August Bartels 27 Rose Bartels 25
August Bartels and family were listed in the 1930 census in Queens (I cannot read the address) as follows:
1940: Great Neck, Nassau, New York Franklin Place August Bartels 41 Rose Bartels 40 August J Bartels 12
Death: Rose Bartels born October 22, 1899 died September 1984, 11735 Farmingdale, Nassau, New York, SS#104-28-8231
There were lots of Bartels listed in the 1910 census in New York.
1900 Census Bartels: 1900 Census Manhattan August Bartels born November 1868, Germany, age 31, Louisa Bartels wife, born Mar 1871 Germany, grocer, first marriage, one child, August son born May 1899 New York
Peter in the 1890 NYC Directory
Peter Goehle was listed in the 1890 New York City directory at 145 Norfolk Street.
Peter Goehle and Family In the 1890 Police Census in NYC
A federal census was taken every ten years. Unfortunately, the 1890 federal census burned before it could be microfilmed. Fortunately, there was a "Police" census done in NYC in 1890.
The police census of 1890 lists everyone, by name and age, living at a given address. This census lists 88 people living at 88 Sheriff Street. They include Peter Goehle and his family as follows; Peter, age 39, Minnie, age 29, Peter, Jr., age 5, Clare, age 3, Katie, age 9, Luisa, age 10, Lizzie, age 14, Minnie, age 1, and Katherine Lindemann, age 60.
Death of Minnie Goehle's Mother, Catherine Furst Schwartzmeier Lindemann
Minnie's mother, Catherine, died on the 19th of February, 1892 at 88 Sheriff Street.
It would seem, that at the time of her death, Catherine was living with Minnie and Peter. See Catherine Furst Schwartzmeier Lindemann
Catherine Furst was widowed for the first time sometime before 1863 leaving her, I believe, with her young daughter, Minnie. Catherine married for a second time in 1863. She was widowed for the second time in 1867 when Minnie was about five years old and her sister, Kate, was about two years old. Catherine, supported her daughters by working as a seamstress.
Minnie married Peter Goehle in January 28, 1889, when she was twenty six years old. Minnie had not been married before. Given the average age at first marriages in the German American community in the late 1880's, she was a bit of an old maid. Her younger sister, Kate, had married in May of 1888 at age 22. Peter's first wife, Catherine, had only been dead about three months when Minnie and Peter were married. In addition, he had six orphaned children ranging in age from two to thirteen from his first marriage.
It is clear what Peter gained when he married Minnie. What was the advantage to Minnie? She could hardly have married for love. What kind of a courtship do you have with someone who was only widowed for three months and had a slew of young kids? It does not appear that Peter was "rich", so it doesn't appear she married for money. Why didn't Minnie marry someone closer to her own age and without all the baggage? According to Justine Land Leler, Agnes Goehle Land told her that Minnie Lindemann was the Goehle's housekeeper.
Eleven months after she married, Minnie has her first child. Seventeen months later she had another child. Nine months after the birth of her second child, her 62 year old mother, Catherine, who was living with them, died from edema of the lungs and kidney failure. I would appear that Catherine had not been well for some time. To add more stress to the situation, from the time Minnie was married until the time her mother died in 1892, the family moved at least two times.
Peter Goehle, Occupation, From New York City Directories
1879, Goehle Peter butcher h. 80 Pitt
1882, Goehle, Peter, clerk, h 73 Broome Street
1882-1883, Peter Goehle, butcher h 63 Columbia Street
1884-1885, Goehle, Peter, butcher h 63 Columbia
1888, Goehle, Peter clerk, h 63 Columbia
1894, Goehle, Peter butcher, h 88 Sheriff
1896-1897, Goehe, Peter, butcher h 374 E 4th
1897-1898, Goehle, Peter, butcher, h 374 E4th
1898-1899, Goehle, Peter, clerk, h 738 E 9th
1916, Goehle, Peter, meatetr h 85 E End Ave
1917, Goehle, Peter, janitor 85 E End Av.
Peter Goehle in the 1899 Directory for New York
Peter Goehle is listed in the 1899 Directory at 738 E. 9th Street as a butcher.
The Goehles in the 1900 census
The census of 1900 lists the Goehle family living at 236 East 14 Street:
There are several discrepancies with this census:
These types of discrepancies are common in censuses.
Peter Goehle and Family in the 1910 Federal Census in New York
Peter Goehle and Family were listed in the 1910 Federal Census at 422 E 75th Street in NYC as follows:
Peter Goehle and Family in the 1915 New York State Census
Peter Goehle and his family were listed at 85 East End Avenue (AD22, ED 5, page 35) in the 1915 New York State Census as follows:
Peter Goehle and sons in the 1915 Directory
Peter Goehle and his sons, Peter and Frank were listed in the 1915 New York City Directory as follows:
Death of Peter Goehle
On January 17, 1917 Peter, Sr. died of Broncho-Pneumonia at 85 East-End Avenue. He was buried in the Lutheran Cemetery on January 20, 1917. (Death Certificate of Peter Goehle) He was almost 65 at the time of his death.
According to the interment records of the Lutheran Cemetery, Peter Goehle, Catherine "Lentermann" and Wilhemina Goehle were buried in the same grave:
Except for the address at Peter Goehle's death, all the above address are on the Lower East Side in what was known as "Kleindeutchland" (Little Germany). Kleindeutchland included the area east of the Bowery, north of Division Street and south of 14th along the East River. The German immigrants started settling in the area in the 1840's and by 1875 this area was over 64% German. (Later the German population moved up to Yorkville: 83rd to 89th on the East Side). Kleindeutchland was filled with German beer halls and beer Gardens, where families drank beer, listened to accordion music and danced. There were German newspapers, grocery stores, schools, libraries and theaters, etc.. Kleindeutchland was the cultural center for hundreds of thousands of German Americans for several generations.
The Goehle Family in The 1920 Federal Census
The 1920 census lists the family of Minnie Goehle at 439 E 82nd Street:
The Goehle Family in The 1930 Federal Census
Peter Goehle and Frank Goehle were not listed in the 1930 Federal Census.
Minnie Goehle Manion and her husband, James Manion, were listed in the 1930 Federal Census in Smithtown on 6th Avenue in St James (no street number) T626, Roll 1653, Page 17 B, ED112, as follows:
Death of Minnie Goehle
Wilhelmina Goehle, widow of Peter Goehle, age 82 years, 4 months, and 2 days died on January 29, 1944 in the town of Brookhaven, Village of Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island, cause of death, lobar pneumonia, due to influenza, other condition, senility. Her death certificate lists her usual residence as 6th Avenue and 2nd Street, Village of St. James, Town of Smithtown, date of birth, September 8, 1861 , place of birth, New York, father's name Schwartzmann, mother's name, unknown, person providing the information, Richard Gilmartin of Yaphank, New York, undertaker, C. B. Darling. Minnie was interred on February 1, 1944 at the Lutheran Cemetery in the same grave as Peter Goehle, her husband, and Catherine "Lentermann" (Lindermann), her mother.
Note: Richard Gilmartin was the town clerk of East Hampton in 1940.
Remembrances from Agnes Goehle Land, 1975
In 1975 Agnes Goehle Land sent a letter to Justina Land Leler in which she said the following about her father's family:
"My father was born in Manhattan Borough, New York City, March 6, 18951. I am sure it must have been at home also. His parents were Peter and Wilhemina Goehle. Peter came from Worms Germany. His father was the superintendent of the Cathedral in Cologne, German.2 Peter had a butcher shop in Yorkville, Manhattan. Yorkville was the part of the city the German's lived in. 86th from 3rd Ave to York Avenue was where all the German beer gardens were years ago. The German families usually lived between 83rd and 88th Streets and from 3rd Ave to the East River."
My note on Agnes' information
Goehle Records in New York City
No deaths for Goehle from 1910 to 1916. Three listed between 1891 and 1948 including Peter in 1917 and Paul in 1935 (son of Isabelle and Frank) and John age 8 in 1900 in Richmond (I can't relate him to the other Goehles).
I checked Goehle marriages from 1900 to 1916. Male index (1895-1897 & 1908-1936) - two, Peter in 1908 and Frank in 1921
There are indications that Peter Goehle and his family were Presbyterians. His first marriage occurred at the Madison Street German Presbyterian church. His second marriage was performed by Conrad Doench who was the minister at the Second German Presbyterian Church at 435 Houston Street from 1899-1900. However, the marriage was not recorded in the church's records. I did not find the baptisms of any of his children in any of the German Presbyterian churches that are available through. LDS.
St Matthews Lutheran. The NYG & B has the records on microfilm. I checked for Goehle from 1847. No Goehle records.
Other Goehles in New York
Very few immigrants came to America in total isolation. There were, and still are, two types of immigration pattern; group and chain immigration. Group migration is when whole families or religious groups immigrate together. The group can vary in size from quite small to very large. Chain migration is when one or several people migrated at any given time, followed within a relatively short time span by people they have some relation with; other family members, friends or neighbors.
Regardless of the type of immigration pattern, related groups initially settle in the same area. Consequently, in researching any immigrant, I try to look for other family members.
I cannot find any other Goehles in New York City. I have checked the censuses, naturalization papers, some civil records, and directories. There are several Goehle families upstate, in Buffalo, but they arrived in the 1860s and were not from Hessen-Darmstadt. The New York City Directories (like phone books before the phone) do not list any Goehles.
The only listings that even come close are:
Witnesses to marriages are often friends, however, they can sometimes also be relatives. The witnesses to the marriages of Peter Goehle were:
Witnesses to baptisms are frequently family members. Unfortunately, I have not yet found the baptismal records of Peter's children.
There is, of course, the possibility that Peter had sisters, cousins, or neighbors who immigrated and I simple have no way of knowing who they were if the surnames were not Goehle or did not show up in one of the records listed above.
One of the witnesses to Peter's second marriage in 1889 was Lorenz Harbauer. Harbauer was Peter's mother's maiden name. Unfortunately, I have not found much information on Lorenz Harbauer.
|Peter Goehle was born in Hernsheim, Germany a village just outside the City of Worms. To see pictures of Herrnsheim, Germany, click on the photo of the village of Herrnsheim.|
|Life in Germany
Peter Goehle was among the millions of German immigrants to America. For images of life in Germany, click on the picture of the wooden shoes
For pictures and information on immigration through the port of New York, click on the picture of immigrants in Castle Gardens in 1880
Goehles in Herrnsheim
For information on the Goehles in Herrnsheim, Germany go to Goehles in Herrnsheim
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