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Lydia Land and her son Law Land

Lydia Law Land, bought property in Hauppauge/Smithtown in 1899. Lydia's son, Law Land, and his wife, Elizabeth, and their children moved from Jersey City, New Jersey to Hauppauge circa 1900, where they where listed in the 1900 census. They continued to live in Hauppauge until Law's death in 1926.

Lydia Land was born in England and lived in Philadelphia. Why she bought property in Huappauge is a mystery.

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Percy Land and Meta Petermann

Percy and Meta lived in Hauppauge/Smithtown/Islip from their marriage in 1908 until circa 1920 when they moved to 101 North Country Road, Smithtown. Percy died in 1950 and Meta continued to live at 101 North Country Road until her death in 1973.

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In 1874 Hauppauge was described as a settlement of about 40 houses. It contained a post office, three stores, a school and the Methodist church.

In 1893 the state reported that Hauppauge had built a new school building.

In 1898 Hauppauge has a three feet wide cycling path that extended to Brentwood.


Hauppauge, Methodist Chruch

The Lands were members of the Methodist Church in Hauppauge and several generations of Lands are buried in the cemetery.


Photo from the collection of Helen Land

Methodist Church Hauppauge, Date unknown


Methodist Church Hauppauge, 1906

This photo was taken from Smithtown, New York, 1660-1929 where they give credit to the collection of Bud Land. I do not know where the original is. Copies of this image were also published in One Hundred Years of Methodism at Hauppauge published in 1906 where it is stated that the church was built in 1812 ans remodeled in 1895

Behind this church is the burial plot of the family of Law Land and Elizabeth Sykes Land.

Smithtown, New York, 1660-1929, collection of Bud Land

Methodist Church Hauppauge, 2005

The Hauppauge Methodist Church is located on Town Line Road near the junction of Wheeler Road.

Photo Maggie Land Blanck

Methodist Church of Hauppaugue

There was a Methodist congregation in Hauppauge from the late 1700s which met in private homes or in the little school house west of Donaldson's store. A building fund for the church in 1809 contained nearly a hundred names. The church was build over time with members of the congregation getting timber, sawing planks and helping in the general construction. At first the inside of the church was unfinished and the pews were simple slabs of wood without backs. There was no heat except for the foot warmers that members of the congregation brought with them. Gradual changes were made over the years. The steeple was added in 1895.

The congregation was separated by sex until just after the Civil War. Men and women entered by separate doors and sat on separate sides of the church.

In 1906 Mrs. Law Land was on the board of stewards and was president of the Junior League.

In 1936 Clarence Land was a Trustee of the Church.

Information from Smithtown Souvenir Program 1936


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Noted on back

STAR "Echoes of Past" 6 May 1961 p 87

"OLD PARSONAGE", IN HAUPPAUGE
METHODIST BUILD 1833

A similar images was included in One Hundred Years of Methodism at Hauppauge published in 1906.


One Hundred Years of Methodism at Hauppauge published in 1906.

"The Old School House as it now stands."


St Patrick's Church Hauppauge, 2005

The first Catholic church in Hauupauge was organized in 1840. The church in this image was constructed in 1874. It was distroyed by fire in 1927. "A new church was built in 1929 on Edwater Avenue, in Smithtown Branch, not far from the railroad station"

Information from Smithtown souvenir Program 1936

Smithtown Souvenir Program 1936

Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Alternatively identified as:

  • In back: Mrs Soper, Mrs Cornish, Mrs Wheeler. In front: Miss Cornish
  • W Hubbs 3 sister in laws in back, Mrs Soper, Mrs. Couirer (?), Delia Haines, Warren J Hubbs employed by Lawrence and Miss Evie Cornish-niece of W Hubbs. Identification opinion of Gilbert A Hubbs who says Warren Hubbs was his grandfather

Notes

  • I believe that this is the same house as the one that is visible in the image of the second Donaldson Store below.
  • The Hauppauge Methodist Church is visible on the left behind the large tree.
  • Did the Donaldson Store stand between the house pictures above and the church?


Donaldson's Store, Hauppauge

Wallace Donaldson's Store and residence. Also the village post office. The building was struck by lightning and burned at 11:30 p.m.

August 10th, 1904. Store broken open on the night of Jul 16, 1907.

The Donaldson property was on the north side of Town Line Road at the intersection of Wheeler Road (Rte 111) and just east of the Methodist Church.

Postcard collection of Helen Land, now in the possession of Maggie Land Blanck

The Smithtown Historical Society says:

Hauppauge LI For thirty-four years the Village Store, Post Office and Residence of Wallace Donaldson. Struck by lightning and burned at 11:30 August 10, 1904
In August 1904 the Brooklyn Eagle reported the large general store of Wallace Donaldson & sons was struck by lightning and "totally destroyed, together with all its contents." The fine old residence of the Donaldsons adjoining was also consumed."

The two buildings were described as being separated only by a narrow wagon way. The loss was estimated at $20,000 insurance was "light".

Helen Land said that Percy Land's company built the second Donaldson store. I think that the 1904 date is too early for Percy to have had his own construction company in time to have built the second Donaldson store. However, according to the Smithtown Historical Society, the second Donaldson store was also destroyed by fire. Percy did rebuilt the Benstock grocery and hardware store in Islip, see Central Islip.

Helen Land gave a copy of this image to the Smithtown Library in Feb 1993. The card she donated was addressed to Miss Meta Petermann 36 Second Street Hoboken NJ but was not sent. The hand writing was not Percy's.

1916: Friday 21,

During the electric storm last Thursday, the Post Office and general store of W. W. Donaldson was struck and in less than an house had burned to the ground. The bolt of lightning entered the rear of the store near the oil tanks. Through the efforts of a bucket brigade the surrounding buildings and the home of W. J. Hubbs, next door, were saved.

The Long Islander

1923: Friday October 16, "Postmaster W. W. Donaldson has had electric lights installed in his new store building." (The Long Islander)


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

"The second Donaldson general store, built on the same site, was also destroyed by fire. The first Hubbs home, to the right, stood until it burned down in 1964."

A 1906 map shows from west to east on Town Line Road in Hauppauge: The Methodist Church, G Cornish, W Donaldson, W Hubbs, Hauppauge Road*, F Boos, F Turrick, L Blydenburgh, Mrs. N Crone, Mrs C Land, Mrs. S Soper.

* On current maps this is called Hauppauge Road Route 111, on some older maps it was called Smithtown Islip Road.


Image courtesy Warren Chuck Hubbs September 2009

From the 1880 ledger of Warren J Hubbs, for purchases made at the Donaldsons' Store, Hauppauge


Image courtesy Warren Chuck Hubbs September 2009

From the ledger of Warren J Hubbs, for purchases made at Donaldsons' Store, Hauppauge


Image courtesy Warren Chuck Hubbs September 2009

Warren J Hubbs circa 1911

The censuses reveal that Warren J Hubbs born circa 1843 was the son of Jonas Hubbs. Warren J Hubbs married Elizabeth A ____ and had Susan D circa 1868, Warren B c 1870, William E. c 1874, Lizzie c 1877, Warren S c 1879 and Anna c 1881. The 1910 census shows Warren J Hubbs, age 67, widow, farmer, private farm, William Olive son in law age 29, farmer, Annie D Olive age 29, daughter, married 7 years no children and Mary C Haynes sister in law widow age 75. Warren Hubbs was listed in the 1920 census.

The Hubbs and the Donaldsons were living next to each other from at least the 1860 census when Jonas W Hubbs was listed as a farmer, wife, Susan, children, Jonas, age 17, Caroline, age 15 and William C. age 12. Wallace Donaldson age 25 butcher and his wife "Fanny" age 23 and their son Wm Wallace infant were living with Mary's mother Mary Cornish.

Marriage License Of Jonas Hubbs: Mr Joans Hubbs of Smithtown, L.I. New York and Miss Susan Nichols of Smithtown, L. I. 14th September 1841 witnesses Deborah Gildenleer and Robert S Nichols minister, Samuel W King. Marriage License shared by Warren C. Hubbs, May 2010.

Note: Sameul W King was a Methodist Minister who was in the Smithtown circuit from 1840-1841

Wallace Donaldson, who ran Donaldson's store, was born circa 1835. He married Mary F. Cornish. They had William W c 1860 and Lavinia c 1864.

In the 1910 Census they were living next to Percy Land and family.


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Residence of W. W. Donaldson, Hauppauge, LI, no date.

Note: This image does not match the others designated as Donaldson property above.

Wallace Donaldson born 1837 was postmaster in Hauppauge in 1898 and 1910. Wallace Donaldson was listed in the 1860, 1870, 1880 and 1910 censuses. His son, William Wallace Donaldson, was born circa 1859. He was listed in the 1880 census but not in the 1900 and 1910 censuses according to Ancestry.com.

William W Donaldson postmaster was listed on Hauppauge Ave in Islip in the 1920 census. Listed with him were his wife wife, Helen J age 60 and his mother Mary F age 87

Wallace Donaldson died in 1911. He was succeeded as post master by his son, William, who had been deputy post master for 35 years. William W. Donaldson born in Hauppague in 1859 died in Hauppague in 1925 of pneumonia. He was survived by his widow, Helen and three sons, Clinton of Freeport, N. Y., Wallace W. of Tampa, Fla and Dr. Blake F of Manhattan. William Donaldsons' widow, Helen, was listed on Wheeler Road in Hauppauge in 1930.

Is this image of the house that of William Wallace Donaldson on Wheeler Road?


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

The Smithtown Library has three different copies of the image.

  1. A version in postcard format that show only the house and barn but did show more of the road. However, this image did not scan well and was rather hard to read when saved for the web.

    Written on the back was the following information

    1906 photo by Simeon Wood SEE "History of Hauppauge" pa 102.

    Hauppauge (Road at Methodist Church) Forum Cover June 19 1968 v 31 no. 6

    Gift of C E Rockwell 1980)

  2. Another postcard version called "View of Main Road, Hauppauge LI" that was sent to Anna Petermann, 36 Second Street, Hoboken, N.J. in September 1906 and reads
    Dear Anna, I'm having a swell time, Ethel
    This card was donated to the Library by Helen Land in 1993.

    Ethel was the daughter of Law Land and Elizabeth Sykes. Ann Petermann was the sister of Meta Peterman who married Ethel's brother, Percy Land.

  3. The third image was that from the cover of the Long Island Forum. Printed under the image
    Rural scenes and ancient houses still abount on our island and now is the time of year to start exploring. Even rapidly expanding Hauppauge, where this photograph was taken some years ago, still offers such vista.
    Written in hand
    When Judge Joshua Smith gave the land for the Methodist church at Hauppauge he stipulated that the large oak trees besides the road should be left so that the horses could be tied under their shade by Marcia Lawrence Rockwell
One Hundred Years of Methodism at Hauppauge published in 1906 also contains this image with the caption:
" The Oaks near the Church, reserved by the late Judge Joshua Smith as a shade for the tying place for horses and used as such until the Church sheds were built."

Becker Hyde map circa 1906 courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Map circa 1906 showing where the Lands lived (marked with "x"). Mrs C Land (Victoria Grace Land, the wife of Clarence Land) was listed on Town Line Road. L (Law) Land was listed on Blydenburgh Road. I have indicated the Methodist Church with "c", Wheeler Road with "w" Town Line Road with"t" and Blydenburgh Road with "b".

Based on a map circa 1902 the property on Town Line Road was that which Lydia Law Land bought in 1899 and sold to her son, Law Land, in 1901. Law Land bought the property (25 acres) on Blydenburgh Road in 1903.

At the time of this map Percy and Meta Land were not married. The 1910 Census showed them on Hauppauge Road with Wallace Donaldson and Warren J Hubbs on one side and George Cornish on the other which most likely means that they were in the row of houses very close to the Methodist Church.

The 1910 Census shows Law, Elizabeth and younger children in East Hauppauge on Smithtown Landing Road, between Blacklock, then Soper/Chidester, then Law and Elizabeth, then Clarence and Victoria, the Tyler, which means they were in or next to the house listed under Mrs. C Land in the above map. Despite the fact that it is called Smithtown Landing Road, I believe that the neighbors indicate that they were on what was usually called Town Line Road.


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Locustdale Brooklyn Home for Children, Hauppauge, LI, no date

In 1907 Joseph Blydenburgh sold his property at the corner of Hauppauge Road and Townline Road to the Brooklyn Industrial School Association who ran a summer program for over 200 children on the site. The facility was in operation for 47 years.

In November 2009 Vera Karger wrote:

From about 1941 through about 1946 I was a resident of the Brooklyn Home for Children which was a new facility in Forest Hills. In summer we came to Locustdale.

On another site I visited there was a statement made that Locustdale housed "wayward children!" I was appalled to read that, as at least during the years I was there, none of the children were wayward, but all came from some type of what was then called a broken home. I

From Locustdale we also walked about 3 miles to Lake Ronkonkoma to go swimming. Those of us who walked there got a ride returning to camp, and vice-versa. On the walk there was a beautiful lily pond, with icy water where we dangled our feet on a hot summer day.


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Noted on back: Mrs. Nichols, Hauppauge, no date

There was an old Nichols Road in Hauppauge. In addition there were 16 Nichols buried in the Methodist Cemetery in Hauppauge between 1819 and 1922. Preston Nichols labourer/gardner and his family (including his wife Mary) were in Hauppauge in 1900, in Kings Park in 1910, at Head of the Harbor in 1920 and back in Hauppauge in 1930.

While this photo is not dated it should be noted that the road is paved.


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006


A "Hold-up" in Hauppauge, L. I.

There were two copies of this postcard among the photos that Helen Land gave to me. One was postmarked 1906. The other was not posted.

Collection of Helen Land


Greetings from Hauppauge, N.Y.

Posted 1930

Postcard collection of Maggie Land Blanck

Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

RESIDENCE OF JUDGE JOSHUA B. SMITH, HAUPPAUGE

Judge Joshua B. Smith (born 1763 died 1845), a descendant of Smithtown founder Richard "Bull" Smith, gave the land for the Methodist Church of Hauppauge.


Postcard collection of Joel Streich, Commack, LI, NY

In front of house from left to right, Emma Wulpern, Mrs. Ann Wulpern Sherry, Esther Sherry, Henry Wulpern (Grandpa Wulpern), Raymond Sherry, Mrs. William Wulpern (Anna Petermann), and the dog, Echo, in front.

I do not know whose house this is. The Sherrys and Wulperns lived in Jersey City, New Jersey. However, Anna Peterman Wulpern's sister was Meta Petermann Land. The dog, Echo, belonged to Meta and Percy Land. Percy and Meta, Percy's parents, Law and Elizabeth Land, and all of Percy's siblings lived in Hauppayge around the time this photo was taken in 1909.


Images courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006


Images courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006


Image courtesy of the Smithtown Library Long Island Room, C Ball, 2006

Noted on back: Ann Hallock, Hauppauge Road, Smithtown Branch

Stamped on back
Wm B. Codling, Atty
Real Westate-Loans-Notary-INS
Northport, 83, LI NY


Photo collection of Helen Land

Bill Wulpern, Sanford's Pond, Hauppauge

Photo collection of Joel Streich, Commack, LI, NY

Race Track Hauppauge

Photo collection of Maggie Land Blanck

Hauppauge Baseball Team, Not dated

Clarence Land Joe Land Percy Land

The Team included my grandfather, Percy Land and his two brother, Clarence and Joe. The were the sons of Law Land and Elizabeth Sykes.

To see other images of the Hauppauge base ball team go to Law and Elizabeth Land


Vera Karger

In November 2009 Vera Karger wrote to share some information and some grand old photos of Long Island in the 1940s.

Vera wrote:

"From about 1941 through 1946 I was a resident of the Brooklyn Home for Children which was a new facility in Forest Hills. In summer we came to Locustdale.

From Locustdale we also walked about 3 miles to Lake Ronkonkoma to go swimming. Those of us who walked there got a ride returning to camp, and vice-versa. On the walk there was a beautiful lily pond, with icy water where we dangled our feet on a hot summer day."


"Vera"

"We called this car a Suburban. Wood panels were real. Mr. Speck is loading for camp"

"1947 - Charlie Simonson comes to take us to summer camp, Loucstdale" "Simonson's bus came to Forest Hills to pick us up for the drive to Hauppauge & camp."

"Lake Ronkonkoma Beach Store"

"Locustdale kids at Sunken Meadow Beach"

"Helen Schubert & May Nosek, Kimbrick's Store Hauppauge, Long Island, Locustdale Camp 1947"

"This photo is of two of the girls from Camp Locustdale (and therefore, from the Brooklyn Home for Children in Forest Hills, NY)....who are seen sitting in front of Kimbrick's store. At the right of the photo is a large open field where occasionally cows would pass through; and beyond that across the road was Locustdale."

In March 2014 Waren Hubbs wrote:
"Actually the property directly to the right (east) of Kimbrick's General Store belonged to the Olivie's and was originally the early Hubbs Home. I remember this house well and as a child visited Annie Olivie and her daughter Suzzi Olivie often there. Just to the east of the house was an open field (NW corner of Townline Rd. & Rt. 111 as it parts from Townline Rd. heading north to Smithtown) that they may be talking about but I never saw livestock there."
The 1940 census listed Annie D Olivie age 59, widow, on Hauppauge Road and her daughter Susie M age 28. The 1910 census listed Warren J. Hubbs age 67, widow, farmer, private farm, William A Olivie 29, farmer general, Annie D Olivie 29 and Mary Haynes age 75, sister in law on Hauppauge Road.

1933: Doris Anne Kimbrig age 2 the daughter of Jacob Kimbrig was struck by a truck and killed in front of the Hauppauge General Store owned by her parents.

1940: Hauppaugh Rd Rt 111, Jacob Kimbrig, 54, born Romania, proprietor, clerk grocery store, Ida, 42, Washington, D. C., Teacher High Schoolk, Sybil F, 11, New York, Kunt Roth 11, Austria, foster son, Emma Harris 54, maid, Next to annie Olivie.

Jacob Kimbrig was born in Romania 22 June 1884. He immigrated to New York and became a citizen in Brooklyn in the U S District Court in 1905. He was the son of Moses Kimbrig a mattress make and his wife, Sophie. His siblings were: Rose, Tobie, and Max. According to his WWI Draft Registration he was of medium height and build with brown eyes and black hair.

Jacob Kimbrig died in Hallandale Florida in 1873.

Was Jacob Kimbrig in the old Donaldson store? In the 1900 census Warren Hubbs, farmer, was listed next to William Donaldson, merchant. In 1910 Warren Stubbs was listed next to Wallace Donaldson, post master, general store. In 1915 Warren Hubbs was next to Edward Smith grocer and Mary Donaldson age 80, not occupation listed. No grocer was listed next to Warren Hubbs in 1920, although Edward Smith was listed next to Warren Hubbs without an occupation given. NO grocer was listed next to Warren Hubbs in the 1925 census.

Wallace Donaldson born 1837, postmaster in Hauppague since 1867, died in 1922. See William Wallace Donaldson


"Lillian Nosek J Sinclair 9-20-51"

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