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Charles Edgar

This page is dedicated to Charles Edgar - November 16, 1926 to March 1 2006

A truly wonderful human being, gentleman and friend.


The Edgars

William Edgar (circa 1818-1887) and Ellen Carruthers

Birth: Circa 1818 Scotland per censuses.

Marriage: Helen (Ellen) Carruthers

William Edgar and Helen Carruthers, 30 Dec 1842 Brydekirk, Dumfries, Scotland (IGI).

William Edgar Quarryman Village to Helen Carruthers proclaimed 18 and 25 Dec and married by the Revd H. ---- 30 December 1842 (parish Record Brydekirk)

Note: Carruthers was used a a middle name for James the son of William Edgar and Margaret Kerr who was born in 1885. It was a common practice to use surnames as middle and even first names.

More on Helen Curruthers: Born circa 1817, Scotland. There are several listed on the IGI none with a father named James.

Children:

  1. George, circa 1843 per 1861 census

    07/06/1843 EDGAR, GEORGE CARRUTHE, WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS, FR574, M, ANNAN, /DUMFRIES 812/00 002

    More: In the 1851 and 1851 Scotish censuses with his parents.

    1871: Cumberland Kirkandrews on Esk District 5, Birneysville, Edgar, George, age 28, Quarryman, born Cumberland, Kirkandrews Ellinor, age 25, Reginold age 4, William age 3 George age 1

    1881: George Edgar Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellinor Edgar Gender: Male Where born: Dumfries-Shire, Scotland Civil parish: Barrow in Furness County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 10 Foremans Cotts Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Police Sergeant Registration district: Barrow In Furness Sub-registration district: Barrow In Furness ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 4290 Folio: 126 Page Number: 62 Household Members: George Edgar 38 Ellinor Edgar 36 Reginald Edgar 14 William Edgar 13 George Edgar 11 James Edgar 9 Janet Edgar 3 John Edgar 1 Matilda Edgar Margaret Batastie 22 William Boulton 40

  2. William Edgar (Circa 1847-) and Margaret Kerr*

    Birth: Edgar, William lawful son of William Edgar labourer --- Kirk village and Helen Carruthers born 23 May baptized 5 July 1846, Baptismal records courtesy of John Wadsworth, August 2011

    05/07/1846 EDGAR WILLIAM WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR588 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0329

    Marriage: William Edgar and MARGARET KERR Ruthwell, Dumfries, Scotland, 06 AUG 1869 (IGI)

    Parish of Ruthwell county of Dunfires, 1869 On the sixth day of August St ____ after banns according oto the Form?? of the Church of Scotland, signed William Edgar, quarryman, or agr lab, age 23, bachelor, Kirkandrews Hal-- son of "John" Edgar agr Lab. and Helen Edgar m. s. Carruthers Margaret Kerr, domestic servant, spinster age 14, ----- Ruthwell, daughter of John Kerr age lab and Margaret Kerr m. s F-rish, witnesses William Kerr and Walter Irving. 1869 August 7 at Cl--------- Marriage certificate courtesy of John Wadsworth, Aug 2011.

    Note: "mother in law" Margaret Kerr listed with William and Margaret in the 1891 census. See census below.

    More on Margaret Kerr: Born Scotland circa 1846. Mother also Margaret based on census info. Not listed in Ruthwell, Dumfries. Tons of Margaret Kerr births on IGI. Very common name.

    Children:

    1. John

      Birth:16 September 1869 Ruthwell, Dumfries, Scotland, to William Edgar and Margaret Kerr (Batch #C118461, IGI)

      More on John Edgar: With parents in 1871, 1881 & 1891 censuses. Not listed 1901 in Kirkandrews. No death Longtown between 1891 and 1901 on Free BMD.

    2. William

      Birth: Births Dec 1871, EDGAR, William, Longtown, 10b, 408 (Free BMD)

      Further Record: Listed 1881 not listed 1891. No death listing Longtown Free BMD between 1881 and 1891. Not listed 1901 Kirkandrews.

    3. George Edgar (1873- ) and Hannah Elizabeth Ashby

      Birth: Cumberland England - George Edgar Longtown 10b 485 June 1873 (Free BMD)

      Marriage: Hannah Elizabeth Ashby, Longtown, 10b 905 September 1899 (Free BMD)

      More on Hannah Elizabeth Ashby: Born Stretton, Warwickshire circa 1870 per 1901 census - no listing on the IGI - no listing on West Midlands BMD. There are two Strettons in Warkwickshire: Stretton on Fosse and Stretton on Dunsmore

      Children:

      1. William Arthur Edgar (1899-1974) and Mildred Lynch and Maida Flatman

        Birth: November 9, 1899 (SSDI) - William Arthur Births Dec 1899, Edgar, William Arthur, Longtown, England 10b, 546 (Free BMD)

        WWI Draft Registration: William Arthur Edgar age 19, born November 9, 1899 England, mechanic, service station can't read address, next of kin, George Edgar, Smithtown, 5'6" slender brown eyes, auburn hair, Manhattan, New York 6? West 107the street..

        Marriage: Mildred Lynch (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

        More on Mildred Lynch and her family:

        Charles Lynch

        Birth: Circa 1878, New York, most likely Brooklyn, to Irish parents.

        Marriage: Elizabeth Cook

        Children:

        1. Mildred
        2. Irene

        1910 Census: Ward, 19, Rutledge Street, Brooklyn, Charles A Lynch, head, age 32, married 11 years, born New York, both parents born Irish Free State, color maker printing house, Lizzie M, wife, age 32, 3 children 1 still living, New York, Mildred daughter, age 6, New York, Irene, daughter, age age 6, New York, Augusta B Cook mother in law, age 65 widow, 5 children 5 still living, Germany, immigrated 1867, Alma O Cook, sister in law, age 33 single, New York.

        Notes:

        • Rutledge Street is in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn near Wallabout Street.
        • What, if anything, does in mean that she listed 3 childen and 1 still living when there were 2 children listed on the census?

        1920 Census: St James, Smithtown, Suffolk, Northern State Road, Charles Lynch, age 42, chemist, medicine Elizabeth, wife, age 42 Mildred age 16, Irene age 15, Daniel Quinn, age 21 boarder, all born NY, and their parents were all listed as born in NY.

        1930 Census: Right next to William Edgar and family on North Country Road, Charles A Lynch, head own $7,000, radio age 50, married at 23, father born Irish Free State, mother born Penn., broker real estate, Lizzie M married at 23, parents born Germany, Irene daughter age 22, all born NY, bookkeeper auto sales.

        Children:

        1. Donald circa 1923 New Jersey adopted (1930 Census)

        2. Charles Edgar (1926-2006) and Margaret (Peggie) Goehle

          Birth: Charles November 16, 1926

          Marriage: Margaret Goehle

          Children: See Frank Goehle and Family and Photos of Charlie and Peggie Edgar

        3. Bruce April 1931 (Per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

          Marriage: Joyce Shopshire born 1936 (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

          Children:

          1. Joyce
          2. Bruce, September 1, 1959
          3. Karen

          (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

        1930 Census: William Edgar, head own $12,000, age 30, married at 22, born England, father born Scotland, mechanic, Automobile, immigrated 1903, Mildred wife age 26, married at 18, born NY, Donald adopted son age 7 born New Jersey, Charles son age 3 born NY, Miller, Frances boarder, age 30 married at 22 born Ny Miller Alice M boarder age 2 born NY

        Divorce: before 1940

        1940 Census: St James, North County Road, Mildred Edgar, head age 35, "M" (married), born New York, secretary lumber company, Donald, son, age 17, Bruce, son, age 8

        Arthur and Charles were listed with Alec Edgar, see below.

        2nd Marriage: Maida Flatman (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

        More on Meta Flatman:

        1910 Census: Melrose Avenue Brooklyn, Martin D Flatman, head age 29, married 8 years, born Germany, immigrated 1896, butcher, store, Christina, wife 5 children 5 still living, born Germany immigrated 1894, Elenora, age 6, Martin, age 4, Richard, age 2, Meta, age 2, Louisa, age 4 mos., children all born NY
        Death of William Edgar: Born November 9, 1899 died October 1974 Smithtown (SSDI)

        Death of Maida Edgar: Maida Edgar, 23 Oct 1907, 23 May 2001, Smithtown, Suffolk, New York

        More on Mildred Lynch Edgar:

        Married Howard Wood. She and Howard owned the the Smithown Club which they bought circa 1940. Acccording to David B. they renovated the ball room and added the columns in front.

      2. Alec George Edgar (1901-1975) and Maude Crane and Florence Haganberger

        Birth: Mar 1901, EDGAR, Alec George, Longtown, 10b, 541

        Immigration:

        Marriage: Maude Crane

        Children:

        1. Alec Jr., c.1923
        2. June, circa 1926

        1928 Phone book: Edgar, Alec G. Smithtown Branch

        Note: Alec was the only Edgar listed.

        Illness of Maude Crane Edgar:

        June 27, 1929 Mrs. Alec Edgar undergoing treatment at Dr. Kings Private Bay Shore Hospitaa" (Long Islander)

        1930 Census: Smithtown, Maple Ave, Lillian Crane, head own $7,000, age 53 widowed, married at age 22, born NY, Alec Edgar, son in law, age 29, married at 21, born England, father born Scotland, carpenter building, Maude Edgar, daughter age 27 married at 18, born Ny, Alec Edgar Jr. age 7 and June E Edgar age 4

        Death of Maude Crane Edgar, 1934: Mrs Maude Edgar

        Mrs. Maude Edgan, wife of Alec Edgar, passed away early Monday morning at her Karl Manor home following a weeks illness. She was 29 years old and was the daughter of Mrs. Lillian Crane and the late J. Evans Crane, former supervisor of the Township of Smithtown. She was married to Mr. Edgar in 1921 and two children were born to them, who survive, as will as her mother, Mrs. Lillian Crane and two sisters, Mrs Mildren De Milt and Mrs. Ruth O'Berry of Smithtown." Long Islander, June 8, 1934

        1940 Census: Manor ?? Road, Edgar, Alec, age 39, born England, carpenter, builder, Aleck Jr. son age 17, born New York, June daughter age 10, born New York, Arthur brother age 40, born England, auto mechanic, auto repair shop, Charles, nephew age 13, born New York, James, Maida, housekeeper age 32, born New York, lived Hempstead in 1935,

        Remarriage of Alec Edgar: Florence (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

        Hagenberger per references in the Long Iaslander, before 1945.

        Children:

        1. Richard
        2. Ronald
        3. Rene
        4. Robert

        5. (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

        Death of Alec Edgar: Alec Edgar, Birth: 26 Nov 1900, Death: Nov 1975 - Smithtown, Suffolk, New York

      3. Benjamin circa 1903, New Jersey

        Death: Died of polio age 16 (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)

      4. Preston circa 1904 New Jersey

        1930: Not listed

        Death: Preston Edgar, Birth: 1 Apr 1904, Death: Oct 1973 - Lacona, Oswego, New York, United States

      5. Unknown - based on the answer to number of children in the 1910 census

      1901 census: Near Wm Edgar and family, George Edgar Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah E Edgar Where born: Kirkandrews On Esk, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Arthuret and Kirkandrews Moat Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkandrews on Esk St Andrew County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: Gamekeeper. Registration district: Longtown Sub-registration district: Low Longtown ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Piece: 4862 Folio: 63 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age George Edgar 28 Hannah E Edgar 31 Wm A Edgar 1 Eli G Edgar 4 Months Jack Dunwoodie 23 Mary A Rennolds 57

      Immigration:

      Sailing, Hannah and William: SS Carmania, Edgar, Hannah age 42, 5 feet 3 inches, dark complexion, brown hair, blue eyes, born England, Ryton on Dunsmore, William A son age 10, last permanent address, Wading River, L.I. Non immigrant Aliens, nearest relative in UK, mother, M. A. Ashby, Castle Browage ___, to Wading River, Long Island, first immigrated to US 1899, to Husband Geo. Edgar Wading River, Long Island. 6 April 1912 from Liverpool.

      1910 Census: Brooklake Rd, Florham Park, New Jersey _ George Edgar, age 37, married 10 years, born England immigrated 1891* game keeper, Hannah "Annah" age 40, married 10 years 5 children 4 still living, William A age 10, Alec age 9, Benjamin J age 7 Preston J age 6 . All born England and immigrated in 1891 except Benj and Pres. who were born NJ.

      * They did not immigrated in 1891 Alec was born in England in 1901.

      WWI Draft Registration: George Edgar Smithtown, born June 1, 1873 England, game keeper, Wyandanch Club, wife, Hannah Elizabeth Edgar, Smithtown, short, medium build, gray eyes, gray hair.

      The Wyandanch Club: In 1872 the Brooklyn Gun Club purchased Caleb Smith's house and land near the head of the Nissequogue in Smithtown. Fishing, fox hunting and quail and pheasant shooting were popular sports.

      The club was renamed the Wyandanch Club in 1893 after a Montaukett sachem. It is now on the list of registered historic places and is known as Caleb Smith State Park. Jericho Tnpk. SW of jct. with Meadow Rd., Smithtown (5180 acres, 12 buildings)

      1920 Census: Smithtown Town Pike, George Edgar, head, age 45, married, immigrated 1900, game keeper club, Hannah wife, age 46, immigrated 1900, Arthur son age 20 immigrated 1900, mechanic automotive, Alex son age 19 immigrated 1900 no occupation Preston son age 16.

    4. David Edger

      Birth: Births Sep 1875 EDGAR, David, Longtown, 10b, 474 (Free BMD)

      Further Records: With his parents in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censues

      Death: March 1908, Longtown 10b 364 age 32 (Free BMD)

    5. Mary Jane Births Mar 1879, Edgar, Mary Jan_, Longtown, 10b, 458 (Free BMD)

      Further Records: With her parents in 1891 not with them in 1901.

      1901 Census: Mary Edgar age 21, general servant domestic born Kirkandres on Esk with Mary Downey in Carlisle, St Mary Within, Cumberland, England

      Possible Marriage: Marriages Sep 1908, EDGAR, Mary Jane, Longtown, 10b, 911

    6. Margaret Helen

      Birth: Births Dec 1880, Edgar, Maggie Helen, Longtown, 10b, 431

      Death: EDGAR, Maggie Helen, age 2, Longtown, 10b, 294

    7. Janet Births Dec 1882, Edgar, Janet Ann, Longtown, 10b, 443

      Further Record: With her parents in 1901.

    8. James, Births Sep 1885, Edgar, James Carruthers, Longtown, 10b, 467

      Further Record: With his parents in 1901.

    Censuses: Listed in 1871, 1881, 1891, and 1901 in Kirkandrrews, see below.

    Death of William Edgar: Deaths Sep 1904, Edgar, William, 58, Longtown, 10b, 337 ( Free BMD)

    Death of Margaret Kerr Edgar:

  3. Janet Edgar (1848- ) and John Dobie

    Birth: 11/06/1848 EDGAR JANET WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR598 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0347

    Marriage: Janet Edgar to John Dobie - Marriages Dec 1875 Longtown 10b 759 (Free BMD)

    Children: Info from censuses.

    1. Ellen cicra 1873
    2. William Dobie Sept 1876 Longtown 10b 480 (Free BMD)
    3. James Dobie Mar 1878 Longtown 10b 452 (Free BMD)
    4. George Dobie Mar 1880 Longtown 10b 438 (Free BMD)
    5. Jane circa 1882
    6. Janet A circa 1884
    7. Mary Elizabeth Dobie June 1885 Longtown 10b 488 (Free BMD)
    8. Walter Dobie June 1887 Longtown 10b 496 (Free BMD)
      Death: June 1887 age 0 Longtown, 10b 306 (Free BMD)
    9. Maggie Dobie June 1889 Longtown 10b 460 (Free BMD)

    1881 Census: With William and Ellen Edgar see censuses below.

    1891 Census: Blennerhasset, Blennerhasset and Kirkland, Cumberland, England John Dobie, age 39 coal miner, born Scotland, Janet wife age 42, born Scotland, William son age 14, born Longtown James son age 13, born Longtown, George son age 11, born Longtown, Jane age 9, born Longtown Janet A daughter age 7 (?), born __spatria (?) Mary age 5, born Longtown, Maggie daughter age 1, born Longtown. (?)

    1901 Census: Blennerhasset, Blennerhasset and Kirkland, Cumberland, England John Dobie, age 48 coal miner, born Scotland, Janet wife age 50, born Scotland, William son age 24, coalminer, James son age 23, coalminer George son age 21, coalminer, Janet A daughter age 18, Maggie daughter age 11. Children all born Cumberland England Torpenhow (?)

  4. David Edgar (1852-)

    Birth: Circa 1852 Scotland, per 1861 census.

    Marriage: Mary, born Scotland

    Occupation: Stone mason

    Children:

    1. William
    2. John J
    3. Catherine
    4. Thomas
    5. George
    6. David
    7. Francis

    1881 Census: Birneyshill, Kirkandrews (I originally could not make out the name of this place. Thank you for a clarification from Shirley Hobson March 2007, who has relatives living there.) David Edgar age 29, stone mason, born Scotland, Mary wife age 30 born Scotland, William age 7, born Kirkandrews, John Jams age 4 Catherine age 2 Thomas Edward age ?. Rest of children born Carisle, Cumberland.

    1891 Blacklaw (?) Land Kirkandrews David head age 40 stone mason born Scotland, Mary wife age 40 born Scotland, William S age 17, apprentice born Kirkandrews, John J age 14, Catherine age 13, Thomas age 11, all born Carisle, George age 9, David age 7 and Francis R all born Kirkandrews.

    1901 Census: Moat Commons Kirkandrews, David Edgar, age 49, stone quarry manager, born Scotland, Mary wife age 50, Catherine age 23, general servant domestic, born Carisle, Thomas son age 21, stone mason born Carlisle, George age 19 stone mason David age 17 clerk at quarry, Francis age 15, joiners apprentice, Annie Ja age 9, all born Kirkandrews.

    2008 Email from Helen Barbour:

    "My g.g.grandmother Mary McDonald married David Edgar, a stone mason, born 1851) and the names of their children are the same as on your site.

    I am decended from the daughter Helen (Ellen) who was born before David and Mary married According to the 1871 Census for England they were both working in the village of Wetheral in Cumberland (now Cumbria), David, working as a stone mason and lodging with a family and Mary working as a servant at Lime House School (a boarding school for 'Ladies'). Mary was born about 20 miles over the border into Scotland at a village called Ecclefechan - I just love that name! - and it shows David as being born in Ayr, Scotland."

  5. Mary circa 1854, per 1961 census

  6. Margaret Edgar (1859- ) and James Dickson

    Birth: 23/09/1849 EDGAR MARGARET WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR606 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0362

    Marriage: Margaret Edgar and James Dickson Marriages Dec 1877 Longtown 10b 660 (Free BMD)

    Children:

    1. William Dickson, 1878, Mar, Longtown, Cumberland, 10b, 452 (Free BMD)
    2. Catherine Scotland circa 1881
    3. Ellen Ellen circa 1883 Scotland
    4. Mary Ellen born Scotland circa 1887
    5. Walter born Scotland circa 1889
    6. Margaret Dec 1890 Longtown 10b 460 (Free BMD)
    7. Janet Dickson Dec 1894 Long town 10b 491 (Free BMD)
    8. James Dickson Sept 1896 Longtown, 10 b 491 (Free BMD)
    9. Annie Irving Dickson, June 1899 Longtown 10b 557 (Free BMD)

  7. 1891 Census: Next to William Edgar. See below.

    1901 Census: Arthuret, Cumberland, England James Dickson age 48, stationary engine man, born Scotland, Canobie, Margaret age 42, Scotland, William age 23 stone cutter, Kirkandrrews, Mary Ellen age 14, Scotland Canobie, Walter son age 12 Scotland Canobie, Margaret age 10, Kirkandrews,George E age 8, Kirkandrews, Janet age 6, Kirkandrews, James age 4, Kirkandrews, Annie J age 2, Kirkandrews

Death of William Edgar: William Edgar age 67, Longtown, 10b 299 March 1887 (Free BMD)

Death of Helen (Ellen) Edgar: Helen Edgar 84, Longtown, June 1900, 10b 422


The Edgars in the English Censuses

1841: No

1851:

  • William Edgar Age: 31, Birth Year: abt 1820, Relationship: Head, Spouse's Name: Ellen Edgar, Where born: Annan, Dumfsh, Parish Number: 812, Civil parish: Annan, Town: Brydekirk, County: Dumfriesshire, Address: Ewart's St, Occupation: Stone Cutter (quarry Man), ED: 3A Household schedule number: 78 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1851_205 Household Members: William Edgar 31, Ellen Edgar 32, George Edgar 8, William Edgar 5, Janet Edgar 3

1861:
  • William Edgar Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Son Father's name: William Edgar Mother's name: Hellen Edgar Gender: Male Where born: Annan, Dumfriessh Registration Number: 837 Registration district: Kirkpatrick Fleming Civil parish: Kirkpatrick Fleming County: Dumfriesshire Address: Wickethorn Occupation: Scholar ED: 6 Household schedule number: 11 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1861_144 Household Members: Name Age William Edgar 41 Hellen Edgar 41 George Edgar 18 William Edgar 14 Jannet Edgar 12 David Edgar 10 Mary Edgar 7 Margret Edgar 2

1871 Census: Kirkandrews High Moat

  • William Edgar, age 24, head quarryman, Margaret wife, age 25, John son age 1 mo. all born Scotland
  • William Edgar age 51 quarry man, Ellen age 52 wife, Janet daughter age 22, dress maker, Margaret age 12 scholar, all born Scotland.

1881 Census Upper Moat Cottage, Kirkandrews, Cumberland:

  • William Edgar, 34, stone quarry labourer, Scotland, Margaret Edgar, age 36, Scotland, John, age 11, Scotland, William, age 9, Cumberland Kirkandrews, George, age 7, Cumberland Kirkandrews, David, age 5, Cumberland Kirkandrews, Mary Jane (?), age 2, Cumberland Kirkandrews, Margaret Helen 5 mo. Cumberland Kirkandrews.

  • Next to William Edgar still at Upper Moat Cottage, William Edgar, head age 61 stone quarry labourer, Dumfries , Scotland Ellen age 65, wife, Scotland John Dobie son in law, age 27 stone quarry labourer, Scotland, ____ wife age 31, born Scotland Ellen age 8 William age 4 James age 3 George age 2 Walter Dobie visitor age 14, born Scotland. Dobie children born Kirkandrews.

1891 Census Moat Quarry Cottage, Kirkandrews Cumberland:

  • William Edgar head age 44, stone quarry man born Scotland, Margaret wife age 46, born Scotland, John son age 21, stone quarry man, born Scotland, George son age 17, laborer, born Kirkandrews Cumberland, David son age 15, scholar, born Kirkandrews Cumberland, Mary J daughter age 11, born Kirkandrews Cumberland, Janet A daughter age 8, born Kirkandrews Cumberland, James son age 5, born Kirkandrews Cumberland, Margaret Kerr mother in law widow age 76, born Scotland
  • Next to them James Dickson head ag 38, stationery Engineman, born Scotland Margaret wife age 32 born Scotland William son age 13, Cumberland Kirkandrews Catherine daugter age 10, born Scotland Ellen daughter age 8, born Scotland Mary E daughter age 4, born Scotland Walter son age 2, Cumberland, Kirkandews, Margaret daughter age 5 mos. Cumberland Kirkandrews Helen Edgar mother in law widow age 75, living on own means, born Scotland Helen Dobie, niece age 18

1901 Census: Cumberland, Arthuret and Kirkandrews Moat, Kirkandrews on Esk St Andrew:

  • George Edgar head age 28 gamekeeper, born Kirkandrews, Cumberland, Hannah E, wife, age 31, born Stretton Warwickshire, Eli G son 4 mo., born Arthuret Cumberland, Jack Dunwoodie boarder, age 23, gamekeeper, Mary A Reynolds border, widow age 57, living on own means
  • On same page Boyas Croft, William Edgar, head age 54 stone quarry man born Scotland, Margaret Edgar, wife age 56, Kirkandrews, David Edgar son age 25, laborer in stone quarry, Kirkandrews, Janet A Edgar daughter age 18 general servant domestic, Kirkandrews, James Edgar son age 15, general servant domestic, Kirkandrews


Kirkandrew on Esk, Cumberland, England

Kirkandrews is an extensive but sparsely populated parish in Cumbria which borders Scotland and encompasses the towns of Middle Quarter, Moat Quarter and Nether Quarter. The Sark and Liddel rivers separate the parish from Scotland.

The church of Kirkandrews-upon-Esk is two miles north-east of Longtown near the Scottish border.

Kirkandrews on Esk church was under the authority of the ancient diocese of Carlisle.

Cumberland County (now Cumbria) is in the extreme north west part of England and boarders on Dumfrie in Scotland.

Edgar was a very common name on both sides of the Scotts/English boarder and the name goes back quite far in the area.

Kirkandrews-upon-Esk - St Andrew's Church shows some lovely pictures of the ares.

I did not find any information on quarries in the area

Longtown Web Site

and

19th Century Longtown


George Edgar born 1873


Charles Edgar


The 1945 Smithtown yearbook, the Indian, contained a page titled MEN IN SERVICE which listed Charles Edgar U. S. Navy

"Edgar" Baptisms From 1538 to 1854 Annan:
  1. 1 11/09/1836 EDGAR AGNES ROBERT EDGAR/ELISABETH RAE FR539 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0231
  2. 2 13/07/1844 EDGAR ANN ADAM EDGAR/JANE BEATTIE FR638 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0422
  3. 3 07/06/1843 EDGAR GEORGE CARRUTHE WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR574 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0300
  4. 4 11/10/1846 EDGAR GEORGE STEEL JAMES EDGAR/ELIZABETH BEATTIE FR591 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0333
  5. 5 08/10/1848 EDGAR HELEN JAMES EDGAR/ELIZABETH BEATTIE FR600 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0351
  6. 6 17/08/1853 EDGAR HELEN ADAM EDGAR/JANE BEATTIE FR638 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0423
  7. 7 10/04/1846 EDGAR JAMES ADAM EDGAR/JANE BEATTIE FR638 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0422
  8. 8 30/05/1847 EDGAR JAMES JOHN EDGAR/JANE HOUGHAN FR594 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0338
  9. 9 10/11/1830 EDGAR JANE JOHN EDGAR/SARAH ROXBURGH FR494 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0140
  10. 10 28/11/1844 EDGAR JANE WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR580 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0313
  11. 11 02/04/1728 EDGAR JANET JOHN EDGAR/JEAN JOHNSTON FR51 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0010 0045
  12. 12 11/06/1848 EDGAR JANET WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR598 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0347
  13. 13 23/10/1851 EDGAR JOHN ADAM EDGAR/JANE BEATTIE FR638 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0423
  14. 14 30/10/1853 EDGAR JOHN JOHN EDGAR/JANE HOUGHAN FR630 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0408
  15. 15 23/09/1849 EDGAR MARGARET WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR606 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0362
  16. 16 14/02/1848 EDGAR MARY ADAM EDGAR/JANE BEATTIE FR638 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0423
  17. 17 08/11/1852 EDGAR MARY WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR625 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0399
  18. 18 27/05/1837 EDGAR ROBERT WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN DRENNAN FR544 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0241
  19. 19 12/08/1849 EDGAR ROBERT JOHN EDGAR/JANE HOUGHAN FR605 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0361
  20. 20 05/07/1846 EDGAR WILLIAM WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR588 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0329
  21. 21 09/09/1846 EDGAR WILLIAM WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR590 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0331
"Edgar" Marriages 1777 to 1826 Annan

  1. 1 08/02/1820 EDGAR JAMES MARGARET MINTO/FR686 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0030 0003
  2. 2 08/02/1820 EDGAR JAMES MARGARET MINTO/FR364 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0030 0003
  3. 3 02/04/1814 EDGAR ROBERT MARY JACKSON/FR339 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0010 0350
  4. 4 22/05/1823 EDGAR WILLIAM MARGARET IRVING/FR713 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0030 0028
Edgar Deaths Annan Parish records

None

Edgar Marriages Annan 1855 - 2009 FEMALE ONLY

  1. 1 1857 HARRIES WILLIAM EDGAR MARY ANNAN BURGH /DUMFRIES 812/01 0006
  2. 2 1862 IRVING WILLIAM EDGAR MARY ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0030
Edgar Marriages Annan 1855 - 2009 MALE ONLY
  1. 1 1878 EDGAR JOHN RICHARDSON JANET ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0029

  2. 2 1878 EDGAR ROBERT MCKEAN MAGGIE ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0009
  3. 3 1869 EDGAR WILLIAM FARISH JANE ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0004
  4. 4 1869 EDGAR WILLIAM ROBSON ISABELLA ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0031

Edgar Deaths Annan 1855 to 1890

  1. 1 1867 EDGAR ANN F 23 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0094
  2. 2 1873 EDGAR CHRISTINA DIXON F 49 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0106
  3. 3 1877 EDGAR DAVID M 21 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0065
  4. 4 1888 EDGAR EDITH F 2 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0075
  5. 5 1887 EDGAR EDLIZA F 6 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0095
  6. 6 1878 EDGAR ELIZABETH F 75 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0033
  7. 7 1879 EDGAR ELIZABETH GRIERSON F 33 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0076
  8. 8 1887 EDGAR ELIZABETH F 84 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0044
  9. 9 1881 EDGAR EMMA F 2 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0056
  10. 10 1855 EDGAR GRACE THOMSON BROATCH F 44 ANNAN LANDWARD /DUMFRIES 812/02 0052
  11. 11 1873 EDGAR HELEN F 68 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0021
  12. 12 1877 EDGAR HELEN DRAYMAN F 72 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0089
  13. 13 1883 EDGAR ISAAC RICHARDSO RICHARDSON M 0 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0022
  14. 14 1857 EDGAR JAMES MCNEIGH M 6 ANNAN BURGH /DUMFRIES 812/01 0005
  15. 15 1865 EDGAR JAMES M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0032
  16. 16 1856 EDGAR JANE POOL HOUGHAN F 39 ANNAN BURGH /DUMFRIES 812/01 0054
  17. 17 1873 EDGAR JANE MCNAY F 49 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0016
  18. 18 1856 EDGAR JANET THOMSON F 72 ANNAN BURGH /DUMFRIES 812/01 0044
  19. 19 1878 EDGAR JEAN F 70 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0023
  20. 20 1882 EDGAR JOHN M 74 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0076
  21. 21 1885 EDGAR JOHN M 33 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0022
  22. 22 1881 EDGAR JOHN CRONE M 6 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0074
  23. 23 1884 EDGAR JOSEPH M 83 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0029
  24. 24 1868 EDGAR MARGARET F 2 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0010
  25. 25 1855 EDGAR MARY HEART F 3 ANNAN BURGH /DUMFRIES 812/01 0092
  26. 26 1863 EDGAR MARY MURRAY F 64 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0023
  27. 27 1863 EDGAR MARY BELL BEATTIE F 87 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0107
  28. 28 1866 EDGAR MARY F 81 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0049
  29. 29 1871 EDGAR MARY MUNDLE F 75 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0079
  30. 30 1874 EDGAR MARY IRVING F 38 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0022
  31. 31 1885 EDGAR MARY F 0 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0025
  32. 32 1886 EDGAR ROBERT M 70 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0057
  33. 33 1885 EDGAR THOMAS M 40 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0058
  34. 34 1866 EDGAR WILLIAM M 78 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 009326 1863 EDGAR MARY MURRAY F 64 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0023
  35. 27 1863 EDGAR MARY BELL BEATTIE F 87 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0107
  36. 28 1866 EDGAR MARY F 81 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0049
  37. 29 1871 EDGAR MARY MUNDLE F 75 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0079
  38. 30 1874 EDGAR MARY IRVING F 38 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0022
  39. 31 1885 EDGAR MARY F 0 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0025
  40. 32 1886 EDGAR ROBERT M 70 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0057
  41. 33 1885 EDGAR THOMAS M 40 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0058
  42. 34 1866 EDGAR WILLIAM M 78 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 009326
1841 Edgar Annan

  1. 1 1841 EDGAR DAVID M 11 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  2. 2 1841 EDGAR ELIZABETH F 30 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 009
  3. 3 1841 EDGAR ELIZABETH F 35 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 003/00 015
  4. 4 1841 EDGAR ISABELLA F 70 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 007/00 011
  5. 5 1841 EDGAR JANE F 25 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 009
  6. 6 1841 EDGAR JANE F 9 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  7. 7 1841 EDGAR JANET F 50 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 005/00 019
  8. 8 1841 EDGAR JANNET F 15 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  9. 9 1841 EDGAR JEMIMA F 7 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  10. 10 1841 EDGAR JOHN M 15 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 007/00 009
  11. 11 1841 EDGAR JOHN M 15 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  12. 12 1841 EDGAR MARGARET F 45 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 003/00 005
  13. 13 1841 EDGAR MARGARET F 45 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
  14. 14 1841 EDGAR MARY F 5 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 003/00 015
  15. 15 1841 EDGAR MARY F 13 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 005/00 019
  16. 16 1841 EDGAR MARY F 40 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 007/00 011
  17. 17 1841 EDGAR ROBERT M 4 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 019
  18. 18 1841 EDGAR ROBERT M 8 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 003/00 015
  19. 19 1841 EDGAR THOMAS M 20 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 003/00 005
  20. 20 1841 EDGAR WILLIAM M 40 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 019
  21. 21 1841 EDGAR WILLIAM M 20 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 003
1851 Census Annan William Edgar

  1. 1 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 60 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 033
  2. 2 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 38 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 046
  3. 3 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 4 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 001/00 046
  4. 4 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 9 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 002/00 013
  5. 5 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 24 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 010/00 007
  6. 6 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 31 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 011/00 017
  7. 7 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 5 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 011/00 017
  8. 8 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM M 30 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 013/00 010
  9. 9 1851 EDGAR WILLIAM JOHNSTO M 18 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 004/00 040

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