The Edgar Family
Goehle Introduction -
Frank Goehle -
St James Long Island
This page is dedicated to Charles Edgar - November 16, 1926 to March 1, 2006
A truly wonderful human being, gentleman and friend.
William Edgar (circa 1818-1887) and Ellen Carruthers
Birth: Circa 1818 Scotland per censuses.
Marriage: Helen (Ellen) Carruthers
William Edgar and Helen Carruthers,
30 Dec 1842 Brydekirk, Dumfries, Scotland (IGI).
William Edgar Quarryman Village to Helen Carruthers
proclaimed 18 and 25 Dec and married by the Revd H. ---- 30 December 1842 (parish Record Brydekirk)
Note: Carruthers was used a a middle name for James the son of William
Edgar and Margaret Kerr who was born in 1885. It was a common practice to use surnames as middle and even first names.
More on Helen Curruthers: Born circa 1817, Scotland. There are several listed on the IGI none with a father named James.
- George, circa 1843 per 1861 census
07/06/1843 EDGAR, GEORGE CARRUTHE, WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS, FR574, M, ANNAN,
/DUMFRIES 812/00 002
More: In the 1851 and 1851 Scotish censuses with his parents.
1871: Cumberland Kirkandrews on Esk District 5, Birneysville, Edgar,
George, age 28, Quarryman, born Cumberland, Kirkandrews
Ellinor, age 25,
Reginold age 4,
William age 3 George age 1
1881: George Edgar
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Spouse's Name: Ellinor Edgar
Where born: Dumfries-Shire, Scotland
Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
Street Address: 10 Foremans Cotts
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Police Sergeant
Registration district: Barrow In Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow In Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Page Number: 62
George Edgar 38
Ellinor Edgar 36
Reginald Edgar 14
William Edgar 13
George Edgar 11
James Edgar 9
Janet Edgar 3
John Edgar 1
Margaret Batastie 22
William Boulton 40
- William Edgar (Circa 1847-)
and Margaret Kerr*
Edgar, William lawful son of William Edgar labourer --- Kirk village and Helen Carruthers born
23 May baptized 5 July 1846,
Baptismal records courtesy of John Wadsworth, August 2011
05/07/1846 EDGAR WILLIAM WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR588 M ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0329
Marriage: William Edgar and MARGARET KERR Ruthwell, Dumfries, Scotland,
06 AUG 1869 (IGI)
Parish of Ruthwell county of Dunfires, 1869 On the sixth day of August St ____
according oto the Form?? of the Church of Scotland, signed William Edgar, quarryman,
or agr lab, age 23, bachelor, Kirkandrews
Hal-- son of "John" Edgar agr Lab. and Helen Edgar m. s.
Margaret Kerr, domestic servant, spinster age 14, ----- Ruthwell, daughter of John Kerr age lab and
Margaret Kerr m. s F-rish, witnesses William Kerr and Walter Irving.
1869 August 7 at Cl--------- Marriage certificate courtesy of John Wadsworth, Aug 2011.
Note: "mother in law" Margaret Kerr listed with
William and Margaret in the 1891 census. See census below.
More on Margaret Kerr: Born Scotland circa 1846. Mother also Margaret based on census info. Not listed in Ruthwell, Dumfries. Tons
of Margaret Kerr births on IGI. Very common name.
Birth:16 September 1869 Ruthwell, Dumfries, Scotland, to William Edgar and
Margaret Kerr (Batch #C118461, IGI)
More on John Edgar: With parents in 1871, 1881 & 1891 censuses. Not listed
1901 in Kirkandrews. No death Longtown between 1891 and 1901 on Free BMD.
Birth: Births Dec 1871, EDGAR, William, Longtown, 10b, 408 (Free BMD)
Further Record: Listed 1881 not listed 1891. No death listing Longtown Free BMD
between 1881 and 1891. Not listed 1901 Kirkandrews.
- George Edgar (1873- ) and Hannah Elizabeth Ashby
Birth: Cumberland England - George Edgar Longtown 10b 485 June 1873 (Free BMD)
Marriage: Hannah Elizabeth Ashby, Longtown, 10b 905 September 1899 (Free BMD)
More on Hannah Elizabeth Ashby: Born Stretton, Warwickshire circa 1870 per 1901 census
- no listing on the IGI - no listing on West Midlands BMD. There are two Strettons in
Warkwickshire: Stretton on Fosse and Stretton on
Immigration: From Liverpool June 1901, Hannah Edgar wife, age 31,
Second Saloon, Wm A inft, Alec inft, Teutonic to New York, June 15, 1901,
- William Arthur Edgar (1899-1974) and Mildred Lynch and
Birth: November 9, 1899 (SSDI) - William Arthur Births Dec 1899, Edgar, William Arthur,
Longtown, England 10b, 546 (Free BMD)
WWI Draft Registration: William Arthur Edgar age 19, born November 9, 1899
England, mechanic, service station can't read address, next of kin,
George Edgar, Smithtown, 5'6" slender brown eyes, auburn hair, Manhattan, New York 6? West 107the street..
Marriage: Mildred Lynch (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
More on Mildred Lynch and her family:
Birth: Circa 1878, New York, most likely Brooklyn, to Irish parents.
Marriage: Elizabeth Cook
1910 Census: Ward, 19, Rutledge Street, Brooklyn, Charles A Lynch, head, age 32,
married 11 years, born New York, both parents born
Irish Free State, color maker printing house,
Lizzie M, wife, age 32, 3 children 1 still living, New York,
Mildred daughter, age 6, New York,
Irene, daughter, age age 6, New York,
Augusta B Cook mother in law, age 65 widow, 5 children 5 still living, Germany, immigrated 1867,
Alma O Cook, sister in law, age 33 single, New York.
- Rutledge Street is in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn near
What, if anything, does in mean that she listed 3 childen and 1 still
living when there were 2 children listed on the census?
1920 Census: St James, Smithtown, Suffolk, Northern State Road,
Charles Lynch, age 42, chemist, medicine
Elizabeth, wife, age 42
Mildred age 16,
Irene age 15,
Daniel Quinn, age 21 boarder, all born NY, and their parents were all listed as born in NY.
1930 Census: Right next to William Edgar and family on North Country Road, Charles A Lynch, head
own $7,000, radio age 50, married at 23, father born Irish Free State, mother born Penn.,
broker real estate,
Lizzie M married at 23, parents born Germany,
Irene daughter age 22, all born NY, bookkeeper auto sales.
- Donald circa 1923 New Jersey adopted (1930 Census)
Death: July 1964
Donald Joseph Edgar age 43, died suddenly on July 10 at his home, 19 Harcourt Ave., Smithtown.
He was born in New Jersey on March 8, 1923 and lived in Smithtown most of his life.
He was survived by his wife, Marilyn (Johnson) Edgar and three daughters, Mrs. Patricia Troeger,
Carlene and Terry, three sons, Donald, Dennis and Daniel all of Smithttown, his mother Mrs. Howard (Mildred) Wood of St James, his father Arthur Edgar of Smithtown, and two brothers, Bruce and
Charles Edgar of St James.
Requiem Mass offered at Sts. Philip and James R. C. St James and buried R. C. Cemetery, Hauppauge.
Member of the Smithtown Lions Club, the Holy Names Society, Knights of Columbus, and the Smithtown Bay Yacht Club.
- Charles Edgar (1926-2006) and Margaret (Peggie) Goehle
Birth: Charles November 16, 1926
Marriage: Margaret Goehle
Children: See Frank Goehle and Family
and Photos of Charlie and Peggie Edgar
- Bruce April 1931 (Per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
Marriage: Joyce Shopshire born 1936 (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
- Bruce, September 1, 1959
(per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
1930 Census: William Edgar, head own $12,000, age 30, married at 22, born
England, father born Scotland, mechanic, Automobile, immigrated 1903,
Mildred wife age 26, married at 18, born NY, Donald adopted son age 7 born New Jersey,
Charles son age 3 born NY, Miller, Frances boarder, age 30 married at 22 born Ny
Miller Alice M boarder age 2 born NY
Divorce: before 1940
1940 Census: St James, North County Road, Mildred Edgar,
head age 35, "M" (married), born New York, secretary lumber company, Donald, son, age 17, Bruce, son, age 8
Arthur and Charles were listed with Alec Edgar, see below.
2nd Marriage: Maida Flatman/Flathman (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
More on Meta Flatman:
Melrose Avenue Brooklyn,
Martin D Flatman, head age 29, married 8 years, born Germany, immigrated 1896, butcher, store,
Christina, wife 5 children 5 still living, born Germany immigrated 1894,
Elenora, age 6,
Martin, age 4,
Richard, age 2,
Meta, age 2,
Louisa, age 4 mos., children all born NY
Death of William Edgar: Born November 9, 1899 died October 1974 Smithtown (SSDI)
William Arthur Edgar known as Arthur age 74,
of Hilltop Drive, Smithtown died October 30,
at St. John's Smithtown, Hospital. Born November 9, 1899 at Longtown, England he had lived in Smithtown
for 60 years. He had engaged in the automobile industry in Smithtown and was the Smithtown
building inspector for 2 years and
had been employed by the Smithtown Highway Department. A Smithtown Democratice
Committeeman for many years he was also a member of the Smithtown Bay Yacht Club, an Army
veteran of WWI, a member of the Donald C. Munro American Legion Post No.944 of Kings Park for 34 years
He was survived by his wife, Maida (nee Flathman) two sons, Charles and Bruce. A son, Donald, had predeceased him.
He was also survived by 17 grandchildren, 5 great grandchildren and a brother Alec George Edgar of Smithtown.
Services were held at the Smithtown United Methodist Church. He was buried in the Edgar plot in the Smithtown Cemetery.
Death of Maida Edgar: Maida Edgar, 23 Oct 1907, 23 May 2001, Smithtown, Suffolk, New York
Maida C. Flathmann Edgar,
BIRTH 23 Oct 1907 Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA,
DEATH 23 May 2001 Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA,
BURIAL Smithtown Cemetery Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA,
PLOT Arthur Edgar Plot, First East Section, Plot #88,
MEMORIAL ID 77237805 (Find A Grave)
More on Mildred Lynch Edgar:
Married Howard Wood. She and Howard owned the the Smithown Club which they bought circa 1940.
Acccording to David B. they renovated the ball room and added the columns in front.
- Alec George Edgar (1901-1975) and
Maude Crane and Florence Haganberger
Birth: Mar 1901, EDGAR, Alec George, Longtown, 10b, 541
Marriage: Maude Crane
- Alec Jr., c.1923
- June, circa 1926
1928 Phone book: Edgar, Alec G. Smithtown Branch
Note: Alec was the only Edgar listed.
Illness of Maude Crane Edgar:
June 27, 1929 Mrs. Alec Edgar undergoing treatment at Dr. Kings Private
Bay Shore Hospitaa" (Long Islander)
1930 Census: Smithtown, Maple Ave, Lillian Crane, head own $7,000,
age 53 widowed, married at age 22, born NY,
Alec Edgar, son in law, age 29, married at 21, born England,
father born Scotland, carpenter building,
Maude Edgar, daughter age 27 married at 18, born Ny,
Alec Edgar Jr. age 7 and June E Edgar age 4
Death of Maude Crane Edgar, 1934:
Mrs Maude Edgar
Mrs. Maude Edgan, wife of Alec Edgar, passed away early Monday morning at
her Karl Manor home following
a weeks illness.
She was 29 years old and was the daughter of Mrs. Lillian Crane and the late J. Evans
Crane, former supervisor of the
Township of Smithtown. She was married
to Mr. Edgar in 1921 and two children were born to them, who survive, as will as her mother, Mrs. Lillian
Crane and two sisters, Mrs
Mildren De Milt and Mrs. Ruth O'Berry of Smithtown."
Long Islander, June 8, 1934
1940 Census: Manor ?? Road, Edgar, Alec, age 39, born England, carpenter, builder,
Aleck Jr. son age 17, born New York,
June daughter age 10, born New York,
Arthur brother age 40, born England, auto mechanic, auto repair shop,
Charles, nephew age 13, born New York,
James, Maida, housekeeper age 32, born New York, lived Hempstead in 1935,
Remarriage of Alec Edgar: Florence (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
Hagenberger per references in the Long Iaslander, before 1945.
(per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
Death of Alec Edgar: Alec Edgar, Birth: 26 Nov 1900, Death:
Nov 1975 - Smithtown, Suffolk, New York
- Benjamin circa 1903, New Jersey
Death: Died of polio age 16 (per the Charles Edgar Family, December 2006)
- Preston circa 1904 New Jersey
1930: Not listed
Death: Preston Edgar, Birth: 1 Apr 1904, Death: Oct 1973 - Lacona, Oswego,
New York, United States
- Unknown - based on the answer to number of children in the 1910 census
1901 census: Near Wm Edgar and family, George Edgar
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse's Name: Hannah E Edgar
Where born: Kirkandrews On Esk, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Arthuret and Kirkandrews Moat
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkandrews on Esk St Andrew
Condition as to marriage:
Employment status: Gamekeeper.
Registration district: Longtown
Sub-registration district: Low Longtown
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Page Number: 8
George Edgar 28
Hannah E Edgar 31
Wm A Edgar 1
Eli G Edgar 4 Months
Jack Dunwoodie 23
Mary A Rennolds 57
1905 census in Warren New Jersey:
Allamuchy Township, July 5, 1905
George Edgar M 32, citizen, born England, game keeper,
Hannah E Edgar F 35,
William A Edgar M 5,
Alec G Edgar M 4 born England,
Benjamin J Edgar M 2, born New Jersey,
Preston J Edgar M 1
Joseph E Ashby M 19, born England, game keeper
1912 Sailing, Hannah and William Arthur: SS Carmania, Edgar, Hannah age 42, 5 feet 3 inches, dark complexion, brown hair, blue eyes,
born England, Ryton on Dunsmore,
William A---- son age 10, last permanent address, Wading River, L.I. Non
nearest relative in UK, mother, M. A. Ashby, Castle Browage ___, to Wading River, Long Island,
first immigrated to US 1899, to Husband Geo. Edgar Wading River, Long Island.
6 April 1912 from Liverpool.
1910 Census: Brooklake Rd, Florham Park, New Jersey _ George Edgar, age 37, married 10 years, born
England immigrated 1891* game keeper,
Hannah "Annah" age 40, married 10 years 5 children 4 still living, William A age 10,
Alec age 9, Benjamin J age 7 Preston J age 6 .
All born England and immigrated in 1891 except Benj and Pres. who were born NJ.
* They did not immigrated in 1891 Alec was born in England in 1901.
WWI Draft Registration: George Edgar Smithtown, born June 1, 1873 England, game keeper,
Elizabeth Edgar, Smithtown, short, medium build, gray eyes, gray hair.
The Wyandanch Club: In 1872 the Brooklyn Gun Club purchased Caleb Smith's house and land near the head of the Nissequogue in Smithtown. Fishing, fox hunting and quail and pheasant shooting were popular sports.
The club was renamed the Wyandanch Club in 1893 after a Montaukett sachem. It is now on the list of registered historic places and is known as Caleb Smith State Park. Jericho Tnpk. SW of jct. with Meadow Rd., Smithtown
(5180 acres, 12 buildings)
1915: Smithtown, Jericho Turnpike, Edgar, Geroge, Head, age 42, game keeper,
Anna E wife,45,
Wm A, 15, Alex, g. 14, Benj, 12,
Preston J, 10,
and two lodgers
1920 Census: Smithtown Town Pike, George Edgar, head, age 45, married, immigrated 1900, game keeper club,
Hannah wife, age 46, immigrated 1900,
Arthur son age 20 immigrated 1900, mechanic automotive,
Alex son age 19 immigrated 1900 no occupation
Preston son age 16.
New Castle, Westchester, New York, United States
George Edgar Head M 56 Scotland, immigrated 1901,
super--- on private estate,
Hannah Edgar Wife F 60 England, immigrated 1901,
William Hermanson Boarder M 30 Denmark, gardner,
Charles Dolder Boarder M 30 New York, gardener, boarder
Palm Beach, Election Precinct 19, Palm Beach, Florida, United States,
Geo B Wagstaff Head M 53 New York,
Lillian H Wagstaff Wife F 52 New York,
Dorothy F Wagstaff Daughter F 17 New York,
Hannah E Edgar Servant F 70 England,
George Edgar Servant M 73 England (George B Wagstaff was a stockbroker who lived in Islip in 1925. The family was listed in Islip in 1940 but crossed out with a note "New York City resident")
Death of George 1945:
George W. Edgar
birth: 1 June 1873,
death: 11 November 1945,
burial: 1945 Smithtown, Suffolk, New York, United States of America
"George W. Edgar
BIRTH 1 Jun 1873 Kirkandrews, City of Carlisle, Cumbria, England
DEATH 11 Nov 1945 Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA
BURIAL Smithtown Cemetery Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA
MEMORIAL ID 25155490"
Death of Hannah Edgar:
Hannah Elizabeth Ashby Edgar,
Maiden Name Ashby,
Event Date 1956,
Event Place Smithtown, Suffolk, New York, United States of America,
Birth Date 21 Feb 1870,
Death Date 17 Apr 1956,
Affiliate Record Identifier 25155508
Cemetery Smithtown Cemetery
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"Hannah Elizabeth Ashby Edgar
BIRTH 21 Feb 1870 Stretton-on-Dunsmore, Rugby Borough, Warwickshire, England
DEATH 17 Apr 1956 Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA
BURIAL Smithtown Cemetery Smithtown, Suffolk County, New York, USA
MEMORIAL ID 25155508
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- David Edger
Births Sep 1875 EDGAR, David, Longtown, 10b, 474 (Free BMD)
Further Records: With his parents in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censues
Death: March 1908, Longtown 10b 364 age 32 (Free BMD)
- Mary Jane Births Mar 1879, Edgar, Mary Jan_, Longtown, 10b, 458 (Free BMD)
Further Records: With her parents in 1891 not with them in 1901.
1901 Census: Mary Edgar age 21, general servant domestic born
Kirkandres on Esk
with Mary Downey in Carlisle, St Mary Within, Cumberland, England
Possible Marriage: Marriages Sep 1908, EDGAR, Mary Jane, Longtown, 10b, 911
- Margaret Helen
Birth: Births Dec 1880, Edgar, Maggie Helen, Longtown, 10b, 431
Death: EDGAR, Maggie Helen, age 2, Longtown, 10b, 294
- Janet Births Dec 1882, Edgar, Janet Ann, Longtown, 10b, 443
Further Record: With her parents in 1901.
- James, Births Sep 1885, Edgar, James Carruthers, Longtown, 10b, 467
Further Record: With his parents in 1901.
Censuses: Listed in 1871, 1881, 1891, and 1901 in Kirkandrrews, see below.
Death of William Edgar: Deaths Sep 1904, Edgar, William, 58, Longtown, 10b, 337 (
Death of Margaret Kerr Edgar:
- Janet Edgar (1848- ) and John Dobie
Birth: 11/06/1848 EDGAR JANET WILLIAM EDGAR/HELEN CARRUTHERS FR598 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES
812/00 0020 0347
Marriage: Janet Edgar to John Dobie - Marriages Dec 1875 Longtown 10b 759 (Free BMD)
Children: Info from censuses.
- Ellen cicra 1873
- William Dobie
Sept 1876 Longtown 10b 480 (Free BMD)
- James Dobie
Mar 1878 Longtown 10b 452 (Free BMD)
- George Dobie Mar 1880 Longtown 10b 438 (Free BMD)
- Jane circa 1882
- Janet A circa 1884
- Mary Elizabeth Dobie June 1885 Longtown 10b 488 (Free BMD)
- Walter Dobie
June 1887 Longtown 10b 496 (Free BMD)
Death: June 1887 age 0 Longtown, 10b 306 (Free BMD)
- Maggie Dobie
June 1889 Longtown 10b 460 (Free BMD)
1881 Census: With William and Ellen Edgar see censuses below.
1891 Census: Blennerhasset, Blennerhasset and Kirkland, Cumberland,
John Dobie, age 39 coal miner, born Scotland,
Janet wife age 42, born Scotland,
William son age 14, born Longtown
James son age 13, born Longtown,
George son age 11, born Longtown,
Jane age 9, born Longtown
Janet A daughter age 7 (?), born __spatria (?)
Mary age 5, born Longtown,
Maggie daughter age 1, born Longtown. (?)
1901 Census: Blennerhasset, Blennerhasset and Kirkland, Cumberland, England
John Dobie, age 48 coal miner, born Scotland,
Janet wife age 50, born Scotland,
William son age 24, coalminer,
James son age 23, coalminer
George son age 21, coalminer,
Janet A daughter age 18,
Maggie daughter age 11. Children all born Cumberland England Torpenhow (?)
- David Edgar (1852-)
Birth: Circa 1852 Scotland, per 1861 census.
Marriage: Mary, born Scotland
Occupation: Stone mason
- John J
1881 Census: Birneyshill, Kirkandrews (I originally could not make out the name of this
place. Thank you for a clarification from
March 2007, who has relatives living there.)
David Edgar age 29, stone mason,
Mary wife age 30 born Scotland,
William age 7, born Kirkandrews, John Jams age 4
Catherine age 2 Thomas Edward age ?. Rest of children born Carisle, Cumberland.
Blacklaw (?) Land Kirkandrews David head age 40 stone mason born Scotland,
Mary wife age 40 born Scotland,
William S age 17, apprentice born Kirkandrews,
John J age 14, Catherine age 13,
Thomas age 11, all born Carisle,
George age 9, David age 7 and Francis R all born Kirkandrews.
1901 Census: Moat Commons Kirkandrews, David Edgar, age 49, stone quarry manager,
Mary wife age 50,
Catherine age 23, general servant domestic, born Carisle,
Thomas son age 21, stone mason born Carlisle,
George age 19 stone mason
David age 17 clerk at quarry, Francis age 15, joiners apprentice, Annie Ja age 9, all born Kirkandrews.
2008 Email from Helen Barbour:
"My g.g.grandmother Mary McDonald
married David Edgar, a stone mason, born 1851) and the names of their children
are the same as on your site.
I am decended from the daughter Helen (Ellen) who was born before David and Mary married
According to the 1871 Census for England they were both working in the village of Wetheral
in Cumberland (now Cumbria), David, working as a stone mason and lodging with a
family and Mary working as a servant at Lime House School (a boarding school for 'Ladies').
Mary was born about 20 miles over the border into Scotland at a village called Ecclefechan - I
just love that name! - and it shows David as being born in Ayr, Scotland."
- Mary circa 1854, per 1961 census
- Margaret Edgar (1859- ) and James Dickson
Birth: 23/09/1849 EDGAR MARGARET WILLIAM EDGAR/MARY HART FR606 F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0362
Marriage: Margaret Edgar and James Dickson Marriages Dec 1877 Longtown 10b 660
William Dickson, 1878, Mar, Longtown, Cumberland, 10b, 452 (Free BMD)
- Catherine Scotland circa 1881
- Ellen Ellen circa 1883 Scotland
- Mary Ellen born Scotland circa 1887
- Walter born Scotland circa 1889
Dec 1890 Longtown 10b 460 (Free BMD)
- Janet Dickson Dec 1894 Long town 10b 491 (Free BMD)
- James Dickson Sept 1896 Longtown, 10 b 491 (Free BMD)
- Annie Irving Dickson, June 1899 Longtown 10b 557 (Free BMD)
1891 Census: Next to William Edgar. See below.
1901 Census: Arthuret, Cumberland, England
James Dickson age 48, stationary engine man, born Scotland, Canobie,
Margaret age 42, Scotland,
William age 23 stone cutter, Kirkandrrews,
Mary Ellen age 14, Scotland Canobie,
Walter son age 12 Scotland Canobie,
Margaret age 10, Kirkandrews,George E age 8, Kirkandrews,
Janet age 6, Kirkandrews,
James age 4, Kirkandrews,
Annie J age 2, Kirkandrews
Death of William Edgar: William Edgar age 67, Longtown, 10b 299 March 1887 (Free BMD)
Death of Helen (Ellen) Edgar: Helen Edgar 84, Longtown, June 1900, 10b 422
The Edgars in the English Censuses
- William Edgar
Birth Year: abt 1820,
Spouse's Name: Ellen Edgar,
Where born: Annan, Dumfsh,
Parish Number: 812,
Civil parish: Annan,
Address: Ewart's St,
Occupation: Stone Cutter (quarry Man),
Household schedule number: 78
William Edgar 31,
Ellen Edgar 32,
George Edgar 8,
William Edgar 5,
Janet Edgar 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Father's name: William Edgar
Mother's name: Hellen Edgar
Where born: Annan, Dumfriessh
Registration Number: 837
Registration district: Kirkpatrick Fleming
Civil parish: Kirkpatrick Fleming
Household schedule number: 11
William Edgar 41
Hellen Edgar 41
George Edgar 18
William Edgar 14
Jannet Edgar 12
David Edgar 10
Mary Edgar 7
Margret Edgar 2
1871 Census: Kirkandrews High Moat
- William Edgar, age 24, head quarryman, Margaret wife, age 25, John son age 1 mo. all born Scotland
- William Edgar age 51 quarry man, Ellen age 52 wife, Janet daughter age 22, dress maker, Margaret age 12 scholar, all born Scotland.
1881 Census Upper Moat Cottage, Kirkandrews, Cumberland:
William Edgar, 34, stone quarry labourer, Scotland,
Margaret Edgar, age 36, Scotland,
John, age 11, Scotland,
William, age 9, Cumberland Kirkandrews,
George, age 7, Cumberland Kirkandrews,
David, age 5, Cumberland Kirkandrews,
Mary Jane (?), age 2, Cumberland Kirkandrews,
Margaret Helen 5 mo. Cumberland Kirkandrews.
Next to William Edgar still at Upper Moat Cottage,
William Edgar, head age 61 stone quarry labourer,
Dumfries , Scotland
Ellen age 65, wife, Scotland
John Dobie son in law, age 27 stone quarry labourer, Scotland,
____ wife age 31, born Scotland
Ellen age 8
William age 4
James age 3
George age 2
Walter Dobie visitor age 14, born Scotland. Dobie children born Kirkandrews.
1891 Census Moat Quarry Cottage, Kirkandrews Cumberland:
- William Edgar head age 44, stone quarry man born Scotland,
Margaret wife age 46, born Scotland,
John son age 21, stone quarry man, born Scotland,
George son age 17, laborer, born Kirkandrews Cumberland,
David son age 15, scholar, born Kirkandrews Cumberland,
Mary J daughter age 11, born Kirkandrews Cumberland,
Janet A daughter age 8, born Kirkandrews Cumberland,
James son age 5, born Kirkandrews Cumberland,
Margaret Kerr mother in law widow age 76, born Scotland
Next to them James Dickson head ag 38, stationery Engineman, born Scotland
Margaret wife age 32 born Scotland
William son age 13, Cumberland Kirkandrews
Catherine daugter age 10, born Scotland
Ellen daughter age 8, born Scotland
Mary E daughter age 4, born Scotland
Walter son age 2, Cumberland, Kirkandews,
Margaret daughter age 5 mos. Cumberland Kirkandrews
Helen Edgar mother in law widow age 75, living on own means, born Scotland
Helen Dobie, niece age 18
1901 Census: Cumberland, Arthuret and Kirkandrews Moat, Kirkandrews on Esk St Andrew:
George Edgar head age 28 gamekeeper, born Kirkandrews, Cumberland,
Hannah E, wife, age 31, born Stretton Warwickshire,
Eli G son 4 mo., born Arthuret Cumberland,
Jack Dunwoodie boarder, age 23, gamekeeper,
Mary A Reynolds border, widow age 57, living on own means
- On same page
William Edgar, head age 54 stone quarry man born Scotland,
Margaret Edgar, wife age 56, Kirkandrews,
David Edgar son age 25, laborer in stone quarry, Kirkandrews,
Janet A Edgar daughter age 18 general servant domestic, Kirkandrews,
James Edgar son age 15, general servant domestic, Kirkandrews
Kirkandrew on Esk, Cumberland, England
Kirkandrews is an extensive but sparsely populated parish in Cumbria which borders
Scotland and encompasses the towns of Middle Quarter, Moat Quarter and Nether Quarter.
The Sark and Liddel rivers separate the parish from Scotland.
The church of Kirkandrews-upon-Esk is two miles north-east of Longtown near the Scottish border.
Kirkandrews on Esk church was under the authority of the ancient diocese of Carlisle.
Cumberland County (now Cumbria) is in the extreme north west part of England and boarders on Dumfrie in Scotland.
Edgar was a very common name on both sides of the Scotts/English boarder and the name
goes back quite far in the area.
Kirkandrews-upon-Esk - St Andrew's Church shows some lovely pictures of the ares.
I did not find any information on quarries in the area
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